Louis McKenzie wrote: > I liked that film as well. There is an issue of duty in India that is > absolutely absurd > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 3:09:10 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Castes > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" >> <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: >> >>> Well I can cop to my own waking state ignorance, but I never >>> > heard MMY > >>> deny the details or the caste system contained in the Vedic >>> > texts in > >>> this way. Sanatana Dharma is in full support for the caste >>> > system and > >>> Guru Dev was its champion. So even though your point may be >>> > valid in > >>> MMY's system for the 4 main Vedas, the texts that came later make >>> specific claims about the world. One of those details are the >>> structure of the caste system which is supported by MMY every >>> > time he > >>> talks about it. >>> >> What I heard MMY say of caste has, in my words -- not his, a >> > genetic > >> basis -- and a micro-cultural aka family environment basis. If your >> father is a doctor, and your mother is a doctor (I know several >> > people > >> like that), then the probability is you will have an easier time >> > being > >> a doctor than something else. You have a genetic disposition >> > towards > >> it. And by the time you are 18, you already know huge amount about >> being a doctor -- just from dinner convos, walks on vacations >> > talking > >> with parents, seeing them with their peers, etc. >> >> That view makes sense to me. Not that it should be iron clad. Nor >> > iron > >> chains to keep one "down". >> >> And there is honor, fame and wealth in all four "castes". A "sudra" >> might be a skilled craftsman, or artist or baseball player. >> >> And the four main castes are seen in most cultures-- by different >> > names. > > > I really loved the movie "Bend it like Beckham" which is about a > first generation Indian girl in London who is into girls' soccer. > One of the sub-themes of the movie is how her father had been kicked > out of an all-white cricket club because he was an Indian and how > terrible all this racism and classism was. > > At that point in the movie I felt like yelling at the screen: who do > you think invented the whole idea of castes? > > > > Except that her father was Sikh. They aren't into the caste system.
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