--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 11/1/06 12:40:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > drpetersutphen@ writes: > > > > Ha! That's a great response. But "Carry" was making a > > clever joke about Bush's poor academic performance and > > being "stuck in Iraq." Its actually a clever joke and > > I can't really believe that people authentically > > believe it is some sort of put-down of our troops. > > > > I can't actually believe that anyone would think it > > was a clever joke! I mean, when did Kerry ever put down > > the troops? > > You meant to say why anyone would *not* think it was a > joke. > > > Comparing them to Genghis Khan doesn't count. > > Let's just give that a little bit of context. > Here's part of what he said before the Senate > committee: > > I would like to talk, representing all those veterans, and say that > several months ago in Detroit, we had an investigation at which over > 150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans > testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia, not isolated > incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full > awareness of officers at all levels of command.... > > They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off > ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human > genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, > randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of > Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and > generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the > normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging > which is done by the applied bombing power of this country. > > We call this investigation the "Winter Soldier Investigation." The > term "Winter Soldier" is a play on words of Thomas Paine in 1776 when > he spoke of the Sunshine Patriot and summertime soldiers who deserted > at Valley Forge because the going was rough. > > We who have come here to Washington have come here because we feel we > have to be winter soldiers now. We could come back to this country; > we could be quiet; we could hold our silence; we could not tell what > went on in Vietnam, but we feel because of what threatens this > country, the fact that the crimes threaten it, not reds, and not > redcoats but the crimes which we are committing that threaten it, > that we have to speak out. > > http://www.richmond.edu/~ebolt/history398/JohnKerryTestimony.html > > Read the rest of it, because his testimony has > also been grossly and maliciously distorted by > the right wing. > > In the first place, he wasn't "accusing" the troops > in Vietnam of atrocities, contrary to the wingnut > spin. He was *reporting* what they themselves had > said they had done.
Not true. And you and I, Judy, had, literally, 1,000s of words of debate about this at the time on amt. I don't think you'd like me to post some of those debates we had where I quote Kerry's very words on this subject, would you? > And the point was not to hold > the troops up to criticism but the civilian and > military leadership who were running the war. > > Kerry has *never* spoken ill of the troops. He's > their fiercest defender. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
