--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > <drpetersutphen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- suziezuzie <msilver1951@> wrote: > > > > > [...] > > > > How do you judge at what level > > > > someone's psychosis > > > > becomes a hazard to the practice and that TM > > would > > > > make it worse? > > > > > > Anyone who is psychotic should not start TM nor > > > continue with the practice. Psychosis is a general > > > term given to someone with symptoms that indicate > > a > > > loss of contact with object/consensual reality. > > They > > > present with hallucinations and delusions. > > > > > > > heh. So anyone wh is practicing TM who shows > > hallucinatios and delusions shouldn't > > practice TM, even if under teh care of a non-TMing > > psychaitrist who is aware of the > > minimalist research on TM and mental health issues? > > Sounds like you're usurping the > > physician's role here, which is illegal and > > unethical, Peter... > > Any psychiatrist who has a patient that is > hallucinating and delusional would be off their rocker > to allow this patient to practice meditation of any > sort. For Christ's sake, they are psychotic. Do you > know what this means? Do you have any experience with > psychosis? Out of what experience and knowlede base do > you speak out of? I treat psychotic patients. I > actually know what the f*ck I'm talking about here. > Why would you even want a psychotic patient to > meditate? So they'll "get enlightened"? Ha! That's the > last thing they'd be interested in. They just want a > normal waking state life and to have the > hallucinations of spiders in their vagina and snakes > up their rectum come to an end. They want the > delusions that their brain is rotten and filled with > machines to stop. Again, what would be the motivation > for a psychotic patient to meditate? Why? So they'll > get better? TM will not help psychotic patients, > period. It makes them worse. End of screed.
Define "psychotic." As I already pointed out I work quite closely (no they are not MY caregivers, but I am intimately related to the patient) with a psychiatrist and counselor whose patient requires treatment with anti-psychotic meds for severe anxiety disorder with occassional symptoms like hearing voices that tell him to do self-destructive things. Both recommended that he continue his TM practice, even after *I* pointed out the potential issues and the spotty research on the subject. You are just plain full of it, and in fact, anyone who uses you professionally is at-risk for dealing with a rather unethcial and unintelligent person, IMHO.
