--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > > ...and I have never
> > > > > > > > been nominated for Usenet Kook of the Year. :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > By Sherilyn, one of her more desperate moves.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I wouldn't worry about it that much. You only
> > > > > > got about 40 votes, mainly from your "fans" on
> > > > > > alt.meditation.transcendental and sci.skeptic.
> > > > >
> > > > > Um, I never worried about it at all. But
> > > > > apparently it was a big enough deal for you
> > > > > that you actually had to go count the votes.
> > > >
> > > > Nope. Someone on sci.skeptic kept track. They were
> > > > quite amused by you.
> > > >
> > > > I presume they were all "angry and usually dishonest
> > > > critics of TM," too? :-)
> > >
> > > In general, yeah. Non-angry and usually honest critics
> > > of anything don't indulge in ad hoc web-sites, ad hominem
> > > attacks, etc., on proponents of what they are critical of.
> >
> > You're trying to pull the same propaganda stunt
> > that Judy runs here. These people didn't come
> > down on Judy because she was a "TMer," ferchris-
> > sakes; they came down on her because she's JUDY.
>
> Ah, no, in fact they came down on me--and Lawson--
> first and foremost because we were defending what
> they considered a pseudoscience and a scam. They
> go after *anybody* who tries to argue for anything
> that is not, in their view, scientific. That's
> pretty much the purpose of the group, as its name
> implies.
>
> Secondarily, they came down on me and Lawson
> because we were able to demonstrate that they
> were largely uninformed about TM.
>
> > I followed sci.skeptic for a while. They did NOT
> > rag on TMers because they were TMers. They ragged
> > on abusive, arrogant posters because they were
> > abusive and arrogant. That's where Judy fit in.
>
> Not true. If you had really been following the
> discussions, you'd know we were polite at first.
> They were not, from the start. Any aggressiveness
> on our part came only after they'd been insulting
> and abusing *us*. (As to "arrogance," it's hard
> to think of anything more arrogant than dumping
> on something one knows virtually nothing about.
> The sci.skeptic posters were among the most arrogant
> and abusive I've ever encountered, not just to me by
> any means, but to anyone who dared espouse a
> nonmainstream view.)
>
> > It's all about her personality, and how she
> > wields it. It wouldn't have mattered to those
> > people if she had been a member of a cargo cult
> > from the South Pacific; they'd still have found
> > her tactics repugnant.
>
> That would be the "tactics" of pointing out that
> they didn't know what they were talking about.
> Yes, they sure did find that repugnant.
>
> (Barry gets tangled up in his rhetoric again above;
> he didn't mean to cite "cargo cults", of course;
> he meant to say they would have found my "tactics"
> repugnant even if I had been arguing with them
> about something respectably scientific in which
> I was well versed.)
>
> *That* is what you're
> > trying to obscure by claiming that they reacted
> > to her as they did because she was a "TMer."
>
> Lawson was referring to the Web site owners--
> specifically Skolnick, Kellett, and Sherilyn, not
> the members of sci.skeptic.
>
> (This post of Barry's is an example of the non-
> sequitur slamming of TMers I mentioned earlier,
> by the way. He knows Lawson wasn't referring
> to the sci.skeptic folks, but he hoped others
> would not, so he pretended he didn't in order to
> irrelevantly slam Lawson and me.)
>
Eh, I had in mind specific examples INCLUDING some of the TM-slammers, but not
limited
to them. There are plenty of denizens of sci.skeptic who maintain websites
attacking all
sorts of things, often in ignorance of what they are attacking.
