--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
> <no_reply@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <no_reply@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
> > > <no_reply@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > You're an idiot.   
> > > > > > > In that quote you quoted, Maharishi's comment only 
> referred 
> > > to 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > > good karma that would come to your children when you are 
> > > > > liberated 
> > > > > > > and merge with the Cosmic. I tried to direct your mind 
> to 
> > > that 
> > > > > fact 
> > > > > > > in my last post , but intelligent posts are wasted on 
> your 
> > > > > scattered-
> > > > > > > brain.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > OffWorld
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So now I'm twice the idiot!?! Oh well, who cares! BTW, 
> please 
> > > tell 
> > > > > me
> > > > > > where you find it mentioned MMY only meant *good* karma?>>
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > You quoted it yourself:
> > > > > 
> > > > > "When a man is liberated and his individuality has merged 
> into 
> > > cosmic
> > > > > existence, then the influence of his past karma will be 
> received 
> > > by
> > > > > his son or grandson *or* by those who have blood affinity 
> with 
> > > > > him." -- MMY.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Now, please explain to me the kind of BAD karma that a being 
> > > has , 
> > > > > who has become "liberated and has merged into cosmic 
> existence"? 
> > > To 
> > > > > me this was obvious from the start, that such a being would 
> have 
> > > > > only good karma. To think otherwise is idiotic.
> > > > > 
> > > > > OffWorld
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hmmm... So you're saying that bad karma means you can't become 
> > > enlightened?>>
> > > 
> > > Karma gets burned, en masse, in the purifying molten bliss of 
> pure 
> > > consciousness -- even the Gita says that. Getting enlightened is 
> > > easy by using the fire of pure consciousness to burn up all the 
> > > karma. That is Maharishi's whole point and whole movement is 
> based 
> > > on this idea.
> > 
> > So if the karma is burned up, where is this good karma you're 
> talking about coming from?
> 
> Karma means Activity. There is always activity if a being is active. 
> But, "in the vicinity of Yog, negative tendancies are illiminated", 
> so an ascended being will only spread evolutionary influence when it 
> is active in the world. You can only call this good karma, good 
> influence. 
> 
> 
> > 
> > I think that what is burned up is the seed of karma in the nervous 
> system. The external  karmic influences (did I really use that term 
> just now?) continue on indefinitely because 
> > they're part of the relative existence of the universe.>>
> 
> Only Leisha Vidya ("the remains of the yagya" -- after the burning 
> of the offerings) remains. Only enough of "ignorance" for there to 
> be activity, but it does not overwhelm the bliss or enlightenment, 
> nor the positive influence in the environment of an active ascended 
> being (which purifies its environment). The karma no longer has a 
> control (birth and rebirth) over the being, because the karma has 
> been burned up in the fire of 'knowledge', as the Gita states.  
> That is the theory Maharishi expounds, I am not saying I agree with 
> it or anything, just sounds fair enough to me. I don't agree or 
> disagree. 

That is NEW activity. Karm, good or bad, reverborates through all of eternity.


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