--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <peterklutz@> > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "suziezuzie" <msilver1951@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > When someone starts meditating, is the flatness (separation of > Self > > > > from sense perception) that they begin to feel is a prelude to > Cosmic > > > > Consciousness or the beginnings of personality pathology that > has > > > > nothing to do with enlightenment? > > > > > > > > > > It is the beginning of CC. > > > > > > > > The perception that you are outside your body is a pathological > thing. CC isn't the same. > > > > ************ > > Cosmic Consciousness means that one lives 24/7 one's real nature, > bliss consciousness, and that phenomenal reality, including the body, > is experienced as separate from consciousness, although the > relationship is friendly. It is only in Unity Consciousness that this > sense of duality is ended -- one sees a tree as a tree, but the sense > of it's being oneself is dominant. >
The term 'outside' as in 'outside the body' is used from a physical- limited understanding, that things are understood to be outside the body because this is how we experience the world, subject-object relationships. So for lack of a better word or description, since the Self is unlimited by space and time, i.e., nonlocalized, the description, 'outside' in the case of witnessing would refer to 'not connected' or un connected or disconnected, viewing from a different point of dimensional-fulness-reality, etc. The idea of being out of the body also refers to grosser astral perceptions in which a denser (astral) spirit can move out of the physical-body dimension. Witnessing gives an idea of watching but not necessarily from a distance.
