Thanks Marek for a really fine reply!! The real significence of his Bhagavad Gita is that "Awareness in the state of Being alone makes the whole field of devotion real", this is significent! (page 7 Preface)
The state of Being he is referring to is *Self-Realization* (or realization of the soul as created by the creator)not Cosmic Consciousness; CC (or UC) being the culmination of devotion! He is very confusing sometimes expecially when he is trying to be clever in spreading TM. Half of the time you don't know if he is refering to Brahman in relation to 'self-awareness' or 'universal awareness'. Hope this helps. BillyG. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Comment below: > > ** > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 16, 2007, at 3:04 PM, wmurphy77 wrote: > > > > > In Love and God MMY proclaims Guru Dev had reached the "Cosmic > > > Consciousness'........the perfect expression of 'Purnamadah > > > purnamidam'. Now in the Gita he says CC is merely the basis of GC > > > which leads to UC, huh??? > > > > > > You mean Guru Dev was just in CC...go figure! > > > > > > Yeah I'd heard him described in older writings as a jivan-mukta IIRC, > > i.e. in CC. > > > **end** > > Maharishi's articulation of states of enlightenment definitely seems > to have evolved over time; at first he spoke only of Cosmic > Consciousness (which was offered as the big E -- the be all and end > all of human evolution), and only later spoke of God Consciousness, > then Unity, and later Brahman Consciousness. Whether that progression > followed his own interior evolution or the arc in the evolution of the > teaching (or both) would be impossible to ever tease out since > Maharishi (almost?) never speaks in terms of his own experience. > > It's telling, though, that his description of his evolution is solely > in terms of his attunement to Guru Dev. He describes it as not even > knowing he was living and that there was such congruency between him > and Guru Dev that it wasn't as if 'he' existed as separate from Guru > Dev. I've always considered that his path to enlightenment, just as > Trotaka was enlightened by his devotion to Adi Shri Shankaracharya. > And, of course, Maharishi has made that same comparison. > > But partly because of that, what's always struck me as peculiar is > that Maharishi's programs and organizations are so devoid of bhakti. > With the exception of him teaching us the guru puja to Guru Dev (now > somewhat morphed -- at least in emphasis -- to the Holy Tradition), > Maharishi's teaching have always been rather dry and academic, even > more so the last couple of decades. His circular expositions of > silence, and silence into silence, and silence out of silence, etc., > etc., just have no juice for me. And they don't effectively speak to > my experience, either. It mostly seems to be dry intellectualization > with no ground either in heart or the experience along my path. Not > to mention all the scientific and pseudo-scientific discussions. > > And that seems to be in contradistinction to what Guru Dev taught and > lived. If you go to Paul Mason's website on Guru Dev you learn that > Guru Dev taught primarily (at least to the masses) in terms of God and > the heart. You can listen to Guru Dev sing bhajans and the > biographies all point out that he continued to practice devotionals > throughout his life. Anyone ever have any experience with Maharishi > doing any devotional exercises (besides puja to Guru Dev)? > > This isn't going anywhere; the above two posts just prompted the rambling. > > Marek >
