--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablusos108" 
> <nablusos108@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > > > Conquering this 'foe' therefore is the first step in spiritual
> > > > progress and is referred to as 'Yama'...or brahamacharya 
> > > (celibacy) in
> > > > Patanjali's eight limbs of Yoga.
> > > >
> > > The question is when on our journey do we confront the 'dweller 
> on 
> > > the threshold'? 
> > 
> > We don't. That's for other traditions of warriors. We are not on 
> that 
> > path. We simply transcend that and comes out in the other end, 
> > transformed.
> > 
> > Where is the starting point from which to measure 
> >  our First Step in spiritual progress?
> > 
> > When you felt some rest after meditation. Nothing flashy, simple. 
> > That's when the fun begins :-)
> >
> It can be seen that way also, anmd I appreciate your emphasis on 
the 
> effortlessness of it all. I was responding specifically to Mr. 
> Magoo's statement about the state of brahmacharya and what my (im)
> personal experience has been. Your expression is probably more 
> accurate overall though.

To be a Brahmachary is also a very simple and effective way. I'm not 
convinced that to be a Bramachary is a "state". More like a important 
fondation for further growth. But not much worth without Transcending 
also. 
High thinking and simple living is a good thing :-)


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