--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@>
> wrote:
> <snip>
> > > > Thanks for "exempting" me, Peter, but I want to
> > > > respond to your question anyway. I have no earthly
> > > > idea what Maharishi might have said about these
> > > > things, and I don't care. For some of us, meditation
> > > > is something we do because it enables us to stop
> > > > thinking and just sit quietly in samadhi.
> > >
> > > Kill dat Buddha, dude.
> >
> > What Buddha? I'm just talking about my everyday
> > meditations, and what would and would not strike
> > me as interesting enough to discuss about them.
> >
> > Not everyone here has the same definition of
> > 'meditation' that you do. Yours seems to involve
> > the *TM* definition, which I think I can sum up
> > best by quoting one TM supporter here who described
> > it yesterday: "Not maintaining transcendental
> > consciousness is not a 'failure' in the TM context,
> > of course. Nor is having thoughts. These are an
> > integral part of TM."
> >
> > I have no problem with this description, as long
> > as it is of Transcendental Meditation, as taught
> > by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.
>
> Hmm, you might want to let Vaj know it's an accurate
> description, in light of his own description of TM,
> "...failing to maintain transcendence and then having
> the subtle (or even unconscious) intent to return to
> mantra to correct failure to maintain transcendent..."
>
> But others of us here
> > practice other forms of meditation, and believe
> > that not being able to experience TC (samadhi)
> > or not being able to maintain that experience for
> > long periods of time IS a bit of a 'failure.' In
> > our paradigm for what meditation is, it's all
> > *about* transcending and maintaining transcendence;
> > everything else is merely the stuff that leads up
> > to that.
>
> BUDDHA ALERT!!!
>
> > What DOES interest me is the sometimes apalling
> > ignorance in long-term TMers of the larger world
> > of meditation practice, and the many different
> > paradigms and descriptions of What Meditation Is
> > that exist in that larger world. My experience is
> > that TMers tend to look *down* on other forms of
> > meditation so much that they don't WANT to learn
> > anything about them or hear about them. And they
> > *especially* don't want to hear about techniques
> > in which the practitioners spend half to most of
> > their meditation time in samadhi, while they
> > themselves spend much of their time discussing
> > all the different things they go through trying
> > to GET to samadhi.
>
> Any TMer who worries about "trying to GET to samadhi"
> is OFF THE PROGRAM.
>
Barry is VERY WORRIED about trying to get to samadhi.
