---We've gone over this before, dead horse. All depends on how you 
defdefine "Enlightenment". 

 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
> On Mar 20, 2007, at 4:52 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:
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> > Here's a couple of my pennies on the above subject (and thanks to
> > everyone who has weighed in on it).  As many others have pointed out
> > before, "Realization" implies that whatever It Is, It *already* Is
> > and at some point It recognizes That.
> 
> 
> There's also a pervasive sense, on recognition of the nondual, that  
> it was always this way.
> 
> And of course, if it has a beginning in time, it is not nondual. ;-)
> 
> The Buddha's first words after nirvana: 'we're all already 
enlightened.'
>


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