"Maybe it's just a writer thang, tripping on language. It's just been striking me lately that the language we use when describing to ourselves the world we live in kinda defines our state of attention. Use sloppy or not-fully-thought-through language, and you're living in a sloppy, not-fully-thought-through state of attention. I guess I'm just trying to think things through a bit more lately..."
That describes why I found it so enlightening to drop all the language surrounding my "state of consciousness". I was no longer on route to somewhere, just here in whatever state that is. A person's state of awareness apparently doesn't make any difference in how boring they can be. The answer to the question "What state of consciousness are you in?" would be answered "The state of good enough, thanks for asking!" I tried to email you to thank you for getting my CD. Would you mind shooting me an email? Especially with the 5 post limit I would like to shoot you a note offline. Thanks --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > "If I were to believe in a myth, it would be that > > > individuals CAN change the world they find themselves > > > in, right here, right now, and that imaginary cycles > > > of time have nothing whatever to do with it. > > > > > > "God's plan?" Man, I don't believe in a God, period, > > > much less that he/she/it has a *plan*. The universe > > > is Just What Happens, and we all MAKE it happen. > > > We achieve what we believe we can achieve, and myths > > > that seem to have been *designed* to make us believe > > > that we can't achieve very much because it's "Kaliyuga" > > > just don't float my boat." > > > > Since I can't improve on what you just wrote I'll just say > > "what he said!" It should be made into a poster! That's > > empowerment. > > Thanks. It's just that I've been thinking a lot > lately about myths, and about language, and about > how the myths that we believe in and the language > we use kinda define our realities and set for us > our horizons, how far we can see into the "distance." > > On another forum, someone started a fun fill-in-the- > blank game around, "When I am enlightened __________." > And I found it too painful to participate in, because > to "fill in the blank" I'd have to accept the notion > that I am not enlightened. I feel the same way when > I hear the phrase "become enlightened." Again, it > implies that one is *not* enlightened now, and that > there is something one has to "become" to realize > enlightenment. Since I don't believe that there is, > based on my own subjective experiences, I really can't > bring myself to use that phrase any more. > > It's the same with some myths and traditions. Some > people believe in the ability of the guru to "enlighten" > them via grace or shakti or woo woo rays, and that just > doesn't resonate with me any more. It sounds too much > like "Beam me up, Scotty," and I've always felt that > one's enlightenment is one's *own* responsibility, not > Scotty's. And with myths like Kaliyuga I just don't > feel comfortable accepting as a *given* that we live > in a "dark age." It *doesn't* seem particularly dark > to me, man; I see light everywhere, sometimes in the > places that other humans consider the darkest. And I'd > imagine that we'd agree that the myth that the caste > system is based on anything other than keeping the > lower classes "in their place" is silly. Try to imagine > *believing* that the caste system is valid, and feeling > as if one could justify it, and what that would *do* to > the consciousness of the person who is saying that some > people are inherently better than others. > > Maybe it's just a writer thang, tripping on language. > It's just been striking me lately that the language > we use when describing to ourselves the world we live > in kinda defines our state of attention. Use sloppy or > not-fully-thought-through language, and you're living > in a sloppy, not-fully-thought-through state of attention. > I guess I'm just trying to think things through a bit > more lately... > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > I'm not a big one for conspiracy theories, period, > > > because of Occam's Razor. It's always more likely > > > that the event(s) transpired because of Everyday > > > Human Stupidity than because of some elaborate plot > > > that would then need covering up. > > > > > > But the reason I'm replying, Edg, is to talk about > > > self-fulfilling prophecies. That seems to me to be > > > what's going on in your comments about Kaliyuga > > > below. It's like you *assume* that Kaliyuga is a > > > reality, not a myth. Therefore, since it IS a reality, > > > the world's fucked no matter what we do because... > > > duh...it's Kaliyuga, and in Kaliyuga *everything* > > > is fucked. Being fucked is "God's plan" during > > > Kaliyuga. > > > > > > Self-fulfilling prophecy. What if every "yuga" in > > > human history were just puny little humans trying > > > to get their puny little minds around the illusion > > > of time vs. the reality of Now? They make up all > > > sorts of stories about how Now *seems* fucked > > > because it's not part of the *cool* yuga. We're > > > fucked because we're living in the *uncool* yuga, > > > Kaliyuga. And if you buy into this crap, you buy > > > into Never Really Trying Very Hard To Change Things. > > > > > > How could we change this great, cosmic cycle of > > > yugas, after all? IT (the myth) is...uh...cosmic, > > > after all, and we're just actors in some kind of > > > low-rent soap opera called Kaliyuga, reading our > > > lines and acting them out without any say in > > > the script and the story it tells. > > > > > > Not my kinda myth, sorry. > > > > > > If I were to believe in a myth, it would be that > > > individuals CAN change the world they find themselves > > > in, right here, right now, and that imaginary cycles > > > of time have nothing whatever to do with it. > > > > > > "God's plan?" Man, I don't believe in a God, period, > > > much less that he/she/it has a *plan*. The universe > > > is Just What Happens, and we all MAKE it happen. > > > We achieve what we believe we can achieve, and myths > > > that seem to have been *designed* to make us believe > > > that we can't achieve very much because it's "Kaliyuga" > > > just don't float my boat. > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > It's hard enough getting my head wrapped around the facts > dealing with > > > > the 911 Towers coming down and that it might be an evil -- supremely > > > > evil -- inside job -- my jury's still out on it, but if ever such a > > > > deal could be pulled off, BUSHCO wouldn't have a problem with green > > > > lighting it, and THAT global entity blackheartedness is the real > place > > > > where the media sun don't shine. > > > > > > > > But the fake-trip-to-the-moon paranoia just cannot grab me anymore. > > > > There's tons of solid debunking of that theory, so I don't need to > > > > cover that territory -- just google it. But to save you the time, > > > > here's my best retort. The concept I know of that really cuts > to the > > > > bottom line, the one that most works for me to prove we actually did > > > > go to the moon, is the fact that during those days, the USSR was in > > > > our face for everything, and so there's a whole country of > scientists > > > > that would have loved to prove that NASA was faking it and shame us > > > > before the world (you know, like politicians have done to us) -- and > > > > the Soviets had all the artifacts, photos, etc. that conspiracy > > > > advocates use even today, but nothing like a BIG EXPOSE happened -- > > > > the USSR never cried foul. And if they couldn't prove it, no > youtube > > > > video is going to prove it. > > > > > > > > But hey, from late 1998 to late summer 1999, I thought Y2K > > > > computer-date errors were going to be the end of civilization, so if > > > > you believe NASA never went to the moon, who am I to toss the first > > > > stone at ya? > > > > > > > > And before that, I made believe that this isn't really Kali > Yuga, and > > > > that I was a doer with potency, and that if we all just got enough > > > > silence, we'd turn into good people. But then I found out that a > > > > "good" person in Kali Yuga is the one that manifests God's plan: > > > > which is to manifest KALI YUGA! God wants to see every kind of > > > > darkness now -- and He's got us creating it all. And if we help > out, > > > > we're the good guys, doncha see? If we resist, well, that's just so > > > > Kali Yuga can snuff the resisters -- no matter how many yagyas they > > > do. > > > > > > > > It's going downhill, folks. But hey, it's a free ride! > > > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > cardemaister <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-Qhqzg99t4 > > > > > > > At 4:30 and 7:30 the stones on the foreground > > > > > > > seem exactly the same!? :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The voice-over at 4:30 mentions the crater. It's just bad > > editing > > > > > and > > > > > > direction. At the 7:30 mark, the voice mentions this four > > kilometer > > > > > > drive to get to the crater, so it creates the illusion that > > they're > > > > > > going somewhere new that the video piece hadn't shown yet, > but in > > > > > > actuality, they'd edited in a clip of that crater > > > segment.....call it > > > > > > a teaser.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do think of this? > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU5YyolUHAw&mode=related&search= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
