--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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> On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 1:18 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma's sex scandal
> 
> > 
> > Values are relative. You are more offended by organizational 
> systems being
> > applied to enable someone to give as much as possible, however 
> > little,
> 
> A 3-second "hug" in order to break some record.
> 
> I don't remember noticing that on the Darshan DVD, but I assure you 
that
> Amma's primary motivation is not record-breaking. She did sit there 
for 24
> hours straight on that occasion. The thing I noticed was the 
amazing look on
> her face as she came down the stairs after that stint.


Yeah, the same look Kobi Bryant has when he wins a game.  Same 
motivation, same look.


> 
> I've never held back my criticism of the TMO on this forum, as you 
> know. But, as I've said countless times, whomever MMY may or may 
not 
> be didling doesn't change whether the TM technique works. It does.
> 
> 
> Does hugging by a guru work? Let's see the research on it.
> 
> I suppose you could measure brain waves. People who can see auras 
tell me
> they can see big changes when people go for darshan. But the hug 
isn't the
> main thing. It's the overall transformation that Amma seems to 
inspire in
> people.


Hey, if it works for them, God bless.  Not my cup of tea.




> 
> Methinks you a bit sensitive, Rick, for one who is responsible for 
a 
> 100-odd page file of allegations against MMY and countless posts in 
> which you accuse him of sexual improprieties (all from heresay, 
mind 
> you) 
> 
> Not heresay for me, since I spoke with a couple of the ladies.


from dictionary.com: "unverified, unofficial information gained or 
acquired from another and not part of one's direct knowledge"

You weren't there, were you, Rick, when Judy or whomever was 
allegedly being bonked by MMY, so it is NOT part of YOUR direct 
knowledge.  Thus, for you, it's hearsay (which I am spelling 
correctly this time).




> 
> when I point out the obvious shallowness and, yes, materialism 
> of Amma.
> 
> Obvious to you. You didn't answer my previous question. Have you 
ever met
> her in person?



No, and I have no desire to.



> Do you live in Toronto? 


I live in the United States.


?She'll be there this summer. Probably
> I will too. Would love to meet you.
> 
> And, yes, values are relative, as you say. The "little" (your word, 
> not mine) that Amma and her "organisational system" gives pales in 
> comparison to the not billions but trillions of dollars provided by 
> another "organisational system":, the U.S. government in social 
> programs and international aid. 
> 
> True, but she makes a difference in areas where no one else is 
helping or
> their help is inadequate. Tsunami relief (she's done much more, more
> quickly, than the Indian Government), pension funds for widows, a 
program to
> reduce suicides by Kerala farmers in debt to loan sharks. More here:
> http://amma.org/humanitarian-activities/index.html. And these 
efforts are
> twofold. Seva helps the people helping as much as it helps the 
helped.




...well, so has the Catholic Church done all these things, and 
probably 10,000 times more than Amma.  So what's your point?



> 
> But, gee, I seem to recall that 
> every chance you get, Rick, you bad mouth the U.S.
> 
> I do? I don't think so. Find a post where I've done that.
>

If the lousy search feature on Yahoo! Groups worked, I'd be happy to.

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