In a message dated 4/13/2007 1:19:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 4/12/2007 2:48:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > > From: FairfieldLife@ FairfieldLi FairfieldLife@<WBR>yahoogr FairfieldLife@ > FairOn Behalf Of shempmcgurk > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 1:18 PM > To: FairfieldLife@ Fairfie > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Amma's sex scandal > > > > > > > > Values are relative. You are more offended by organizational > systems being > > applied to enable someone to give as much as possible, however > > little, > > A 3-second "hug" in order to break some record. > I don’t remember noticing that on the Darshan DVD, but I assure you that Amma > ’s primary motivation is not record-breaking. She did sit there for 24 hours > straight on that occasion. The thing I noticed was the amazing look on her > face as she came down the stairs after that stint. > I've never held back my criticism of the TMO on this forum, as you > know. But, as I've said countless times, whomever MMY may or may not > be didling doesn't change whether the TM technique works. It does. > > Does hugging by a guru work? Let's see the research on it. > I suppose you could measure brain waves. People who can see auras tell me > they can see big changes when people go for darshan. But the hug isn’t the main > thing. It’s the overall transformation that Amma seems to inspire in people. > Methinks you a bit sensitive, Rick, for one who is responsible for a > 100-odd page file of allegations against MMY and countless posts in > which you accuse him of sexual improprieties (all from heresay, mind > you) > Not heresay for me, since I spoke with a couple of the ladies. > when I point out the obvious shallowness and, yes, materialism > of Amma. > Obvious to you. You didn’t answer my previous question. Have you ever met > her in person? Do you live in Toronto? She’ll be there this summer. Probably I > will too. Would love to meet you. > > And, yes, values are relative, as you say. The "little" (your word, > not mine) that Amma and her "organizational system" gives pales in > comparison to the not billions but trillions of dollars provided by > another "organizational system":, the U.S. government in social > programs and international aid. > True, but she makes a difference in areas where no one else is helping or > their help is inadequate. Tsunami relief (she’s done much more, more quickly, > than the Indian Government), pension funds for widows, a program to reduce > suicides by Kerala farmers in debt to loan sharks. More here: > __http://amma.http://amma._ (http://amma.http://amma.) <_WBRhttp://amma.WBRhttp://a_ (wbrhttp://amma.http://amm_) > (_http://amma.http://amma.<WBRhttp://amma.http://amm_ (http://amma.org/humanitarian-activities/index.html) ) . And these efforts are twofold. Seva helps the people helping as > much as it helps the helped. > But, gee, I seem to recall that > every chance you get, Rick, you bad mouth the U.S. > I do? I don’t think so. Find a post where I’ve done that. > In Rick's defense I have been on the forum for three months and never heard > Rick badmouth America. If anything, i think Rick has been humble with the > challenges that have been forced onto him by the TMO. And may I add many thanks > to Rick for providing a forum of free speech which MMY has not supported. > Ammachi seems very sincere in her work. I have witnessed several saints from > India and she just's hugs and hugs without any complaining. Her service to > humanity is most impressive. I haven't seen the DVD yet. I am not one to give my > whole life up for the Guru and renounce everything for someone else but the > world needs more love and Ammachi is providing it regardless if her followers > are making a sports game out of it or not. Our main concern as spiritual > leaders of the world is to choose leaders that are filled with wisdom and concern > for mankind. The Goddess seems to be fulfilling that desire and it is so > wonderful to watch Mother Divine do her work without asking for anything in > return. Love and Light. Lou Valentino or Lsoma. Your ability to hug and/or love effectively is based upon your level of consciousness. That USED to be Maharishi's message (he's more into selling peanut butter today). But I think that's the most appropriate response to what you write above. Hey, by all means go out and "love" the world to death. All you need is love? Nope. The road to hell is paved with good intentions and good intentions get fulfilled more and faster the more your consciousness is developed. Waiting in line for 7 hours to get darshan from some Indian peasant no matter how enlightened she is and no matter how many soup kitchens she opens isn't going to develop consciousness on the level it needs to be developed here on planet Earth. But if that amuses you, then go ahead and have a grand time. > Calling Ammachi a peasant is short sighted. Look at it this way-If the leaders in the fields of politics, medicine, religion and education would encourage their citizens to meditate in the first place MMY, Ammachi, Mother , SSRS, Deepak, etc would not have to work overtime to sell this to the public. If humanity wants to raise the vibration to a point of world peace they need to get moving on it then spend the time pointing the finger at those who are trying to create a better world with unbounded patience I might add. If parents can teach their children to take pharmaceutical drugs everytime their body hurts or their nervous system gets stressed then they can hug them daily and educate them about sp ritual techniques and knowledge. Then the lines for Ammachi will get shorter. Until then she is needed and is doing a great job of trying to hold this planet together along with her fellow teachers. Love and Light. Lsoma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ **** **** ************<WBR>********* _http://www.aol.http_ (http://www.aol.com./) > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
