--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "qntmpkt" <qntmpkt@> wrote: > > > > > > Has a Jyotish and Yagya program. CD's and DVD's available too. > > > http://www.expertvedicastrology.com > > > > > > As a US headquarters base in Hawaii, you can send US $ to their > > > HQ and not bother with converting $ to rupees. > > > > As to where your US $ go and your expected Return > > On Investment, I offer a crude start at validating > > the effect of Yagyas (as per the announced effect > > of the Yagya) vs. some kind of objective measure > > of its actual effect. > > > > The first link documents the announced intention of > > one Yagya offered by this fellow, and its cost ($11,000). > > > > http://www.expertvedicastrology.com/index.php?pr=Yagya_for_World_Peace > > > > The second link documents the ongoing conflicts in > > the world during 2006: > > > > http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0904550.html > > > > It would seem that the benefactors who donated to this > > Yagya, other than the "feel good" benefit of contributing > > to a supposedly noble cause, got at least 20 continuing > > significant armed conflicts for their money. That's less > > than $500 US per war, which some would consider a bargain. > > One of the conflicts (the one in Sri Lanka, fairly close > > to the "broadcast tower" for the Yagya's Woo Woo Rays) > > actually had a four-year cease fire fall apart and revert > > to armed conflict again shortly after the Yagya was > > performed. > > > > T'would seem that either the gods aren't listening, or > > perhaps the 121 pundits got the pronunciation of one of > > the verses slightly wrong. Either that, or the Yagya > > was a total success, and accomplished its intended effect > > (bringing in $11,000) perfectly. > > Even if the Yagya brings less than what you have defined > as total success, is that justification for not doing it > at all? I don't get that logic.
Did I suggest that? I think that people should do whatever they think that they should do. If someone gets off by paying $11,000 for a yagya, more power to them. If someone else gets off by taking that $11,000 and burning it in their fireplace, more power to them. All that I'm suggesting is that the *effect* of these two actions -- both of which bring a sense of satisfaction and pleasure to the person who is supplying the money for them -- may be exactly the same. :-) > It is not a black and white world, imo. Your comment is > like finding out from the physician that to attempt to > cure your total inability to walk will result in walking > with a pronounced limp, so you then declare to the doctor, > "well then, forget it, I'll continue in my wheelchair". Rather false analogy. What I am suggesting is that there is a possibility that the doctor who promises to cure you never attended med school, and has no knowledge that *could* improve you. If you "improve" as a result of his "care," it's the result of your belief that you would improve -- in other words, the placebo effect. You are trying to make the case *for* yagyas because intuitively you believe they have some effect. I am merely saying that intuitively I suspect they have no effect at all, *except* on the level of the placebo effect. BUT, if it makes you happy to send your money off to Hawaii, and then you look at the world and see some positive results from your "invest- ment" in the yagyas, cool. The only point I'm making is that I'd be willing to bet that (as we have certainly seen with the "selective vision" with which the TMO tends to view world events to justify their fund-raising flying courses), the more you "invest" in the yagya, the more you might be tempted to *imagine* positive results. As you seem to be doing here, you could look at a year in which the number of wars possibly increased and say, "Well, they might have increased *more* if I hadn't paid for the yagya." That's cool, too, but I think it's a tough sell to those who suspect that the real motivation for performing yagyas is to pay for the lives of those who perform yagyas. :-) > ??? I would add that like any endeavor, large or small, > intution and common sense are the best guides on > whether or not to proceed. :-) That's what I'm suggesting, too. If someone claims to be able to bring about world peace by hiring 121 people to chant for 11 days, I'd expect to see some measure of world peace as a result. If I don't, I'd begin to think that I was ripped off. You seem to be wearing rose-colored glasses that enable you to see a year's worth of wars as world peace, so you can justify the "investment" in such a yagya. That seems to be your definition of "intuition and common sense." Me, I have a slightly different definition, that's all. You have my full permission to send as much of your money as you want to these people. I don't have any problem with that at all. Or, if you want to cover *all* the bases, you can send some cash to me as well. I promise to burn it in my fireplace. :-)
