In a message dated 5/29/2007 1:37:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andrew Cohen, Ekhart Tolle and many others have had spontaneous experiences of enlightenment. They have forgotten what got them to that experience in the first place. After all if your in a state of CC or GC and you forget about the dualistic path that got you there in the first place why would you recommend it. I think MMY is correct. The nervous system needs to be cultured to reflect a specific state of cons. The regular practice helps culture the nervous system. Andrew and others should be focusing on the collective meditation and promoting it within their groups. All of these teachers seem to be more concerned about their own attention to what they want to teach. We need more teachers to reach out to others and start a network of practitioners regardless of the form of meditation. I don't think people are bored of the regular practice of meditation. I think everyone wants a more expanded version of the group experience. MMY tried to do it but he is so exclusive to not only others joining his TM or TM Sidhi's group and has even made it difficult for those who are TM-Sidhi practitioners to join. For this very reason he will not accomplish his goal of creating world peace. O-the bitter taste of judgement.Stick it out with your meditation. Don't stop doing it everyday. When the violence calms down in the world then we can relax our practice. Most people who do other forms of meditation never do it everyday or with some consistency. They brush their teeth everyday, take a shower, feed the body, go to work, exercise but god forbid we meditate everyday. Now we know why the world is so screwed up. Lsoma.
Bhairitu said In fact in other systems it's no great crime if you miss some meditations. Yes. I wonder if I would not be better served by going to a different practice. If for no other reason than after 30 years of this maybe its time to explore some other areas of the brain. I have really enjoyed reading Sally Kempton's "Heart of Meditation" where she suggests "playing" with meditation, trying different approaches. Not taking the darn thing so seriously. Her Guru, Swami Muktananda wrote a book on the importance of this playfulness. > > I wonder if this incessant need to eat, sleep > and brush my teeth is healthy? Eating sleeping and brushing are not a great metaphor for meditation. Eating and sleeping are physiological necessities. We stop - we die. There is no choice involved here. Can we equate TM to toothbrushing? Both have benefits to their habitual practice. On the other hand those who don't brush their teeth face terrible dental problems eventually. What lies in store for the millions of people with out a meditation practice? Is it as bad as gingivitis? Does anybody else here feel this strong need to meditate after so many years of habitual practice? Its as if the neural networks have been redesigned to NEED meditation 2 x a day. Is this healthy? [EMAIL PROTECTED] For me, meditation does clear me out and center me. But its not about me after 30 years, its about the collective. I have been reading a lot of Andrew Cohen lately who has been experimenting with expanding group consciousness through intersubjectivity. It is a very interesting approach. Meditation is primarily narcissistic. The argument that somehow one has to first meditate before they can come into the world to help others is questionable. There are plenty of altruistic people out there making a positive mark without CC or GC. Atheists are capable of doing good. I am not sure of the relevence of your response to my question about the addictive nature of a 30 year practice. "curtisdeltablues" said, But I can also speak for the rest of the world in wondering what's up with the "buttsplicer" email Stu? I work as a film editor. It was the first name that stuck after trying a dozen or so in gmail. I reserve the gmail account for the internet because whenever it gets published it invites too much spam. s. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@ --- In Fair --- In FairfieldLife@<WBR>yahoogr > > > > Every so often this daily meditation practice feels like an addiction. > > I find myself structuring the events of my day so that I can get my > > afternoon session in, or changing plans to I will have time in the > > morning. If I miss a sitting, I feel lethargic and dull. Sometimes I > > have to sneek off to a staircase or a closet for my TM. I wonder if a > > habit so ingrained is healthy. > > > > So about three weeks ago I decided to stop for a while to see what would > > happen. The first week was very difficult. I have had headaches and > > had to battle the desire to sit. At one point I had a job interview and > > realized I needed to do my TM before the interview to keep my calm. > > > > At this point I still feel I am missing the practice. My consciousness > > is in a semi-fog. Is this the way the rest of the world feels? > > > > s. > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
