--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You must have missed the previous conversations on how > "effortlessness" is defined in the Patanjali system. If there is > support (Skt.: Alambana), there is effort. MMY does not claim that TM does not take effort per-se, he calls it an 'effortless effort', yes effort is required! Additionally we innocently 'favor' the mantra!! Not just passive monotony. This is MMY's interpretation of Dharana/concentration. snip > If the prerequisites of samadhi are not met, even if you round a > thousand years, you will never attain samadhi. They go hand in hand, I agree with you, meditation *helps* you to master the Yama and Niyama's. You can't be a Saint and a Sinner at the same time! As MMY says in the Gita, "With the continuous practice of all these limbs, or means, simultaneously, the state of Yoga grows *simultaneously* in all eight spheres of life, eventually to become permanent." page 363.