On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 6:28 PM, drago01 wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 6:04 PM, drago01 wrote:
>>> Why treat XFCE as second class citizen ...
>>
>> Easy answer: because the size of its userbase is not in the same order
>> of magnitude with Gnome.
>
> Yeah but only because it is treated as a second class citizen (I hate
> using this kind of arguments but I think you should get the point).
>

Possible. But staying within the topic, KDE, even as a second class
citizen in Fedora, has a comparable number of users to Gnome, unlike
other DE's that you mentioned.

>>> ok lets add it to the list.
>>> But what about LXDE ?  .....
>>>
>>> You see where this leads too ... a distro should (I would even say
>>> must) provide a default choice.
>>
>> This is weak reasoning because of your above weak starting point.
>
> No its not, the above point is simply replacing KDE with something
> else so that you can see how your own arguments sound to others.
>

Please (re)read Kevin's previous emails. He gives some numbers and
explanations. That will help you understand where your assumption is
weak.

>>> Its a distro not a bunch of packages that gets shipped.
>>>
>>
>> So?
>
> We can't simply provide a list of 15000 packages and tell the user
> "please choose" we have to select a default set of packages. (ie what
> we are doing now).
>
> This has nothing to do with KDE, I just think that asking the user
> tons of question "what would you like to use" is simply wrong its OUR
> (ie. the distro) job to do this choice.
>


Again, please (re)read Kevin's previous emails and the original FESCo
ticket. There is a proposal to solve this issue too.

Best,
Orcan

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