Linuxguy123 wrote, On 12/12/2008 01:15 PM:
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 18:03 +0000, dexter wrote:
2008/12/12 Linuxguy123 <linuxguy...@gmail.com>:
gdb without *debuginfo* is also useless to a bug report and they get
big pretty quick so I say no gdb for normal folk.
How big is big ? Hard drives are cheap these days, right ?
true, but bandwith & media sizes are also a factor.
Yes and no...
Bandwidth: most of us with broadband connections will pay the same gdb
or no. For Fedora, I understand that server bandwidth might be an
issue, but I think most of Fedora is served via mirrors.
Media sizes: DVDs don't cost a lot more than CDs. I am VERY excited
about installing on USB sticks. 4GB sticks are pretty affordable.
I think you missed the point about the *debuginfo*
kernel-2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i586.rpm 08-Dec-2008 14:07 19M
kernel-debuginfo-2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i586.rpm 08-Dec-2008 14:19 249M
kdebase-4.1.3-2.fc10.i386.rpm 25-Nov-2008 14:53 5.6M
kdebase-runtime-4.1.3-1.fc10.i386.rpm 25-Nov-2008 14:53 5.7M
kdebase-debuginfo-4.1.3-2.fc10.i386.rpm 25-Nov-2008 14:53 27M
kdebase-runtime-debuginfo-4.1.3-1.fc10.i386.rpm 25-Nov-2008 14:54 14M
Now how many packages did you install?
how many are giving you trouble that you need to debug them?
I understand the convince thing of having gdb+debuginfo already installed, but
for folks who are:
a) happy running a system that never gives them a problem
b) just into running their system and will not be bothered to put in a BZ
or
c) are rarely running into problems that would kick an error where
gdb+debuginfo is useful
having *_ALL_* of the debuginfo's installed is a waste of their machine's hard
drive and sometimes memory, update bandwidth, and always their time away from
wesnoth waiting for the download.
What would probably be useful is:
a) have the KDE applet which spit out Anne's "it couldn't create a bug report,
as gdb is not installed.", get some _more_ intelligence added such that it
might suggest (on a fedora system)
'please execute as root `yum install gdb kdeThingThatBroke-debuginfo`, so that
next time this happens we can provide a full bug report.'
[Note, I believe Anne already knew about that, but other folks could benefit.]
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