I have to admit I meant patents, not copyright. Copyright, when used correctly 
encourages creativity. The current patent system is ridiculous. You should not 
be able to claim IP on an idea that you haven't even started working towards, 
just because you can see where a technology is going.

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From: LAR<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: ā€Ž29/ā€Ž03/ā€Ž2013 21:56
To: feistfans-l<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Discussion with friend about Kelewan

I will happily yield on the copyright issue - as I know a great deal less than 
one who deals with it as part of their daily profession. But on patents - it 
has gotten ridiculous. Software used to be copyrighted. It is creative in 
nature, and to me that was the ,most reasonable system. Patents which were 
based on actually producing something unique - now appear to simply be about 
having AN idea and then getting it to the office first. You don't have to do 
anything with it. More now there are patents on look and feel as well as 
techniques. There are law firms set up strictly to warehouse patents - most 
picked up for almost nothing, and focused strictly on seeking to collect as 
much money as possible. You can answer better than I, but we had what I 
believed to be a pretty good IP protection system in the original Copyright and 
Patent system before Congress changed it,. and now most corporations who deal 
in IP - especially systems and software - put up to 15% of their revenue into 
reserve to fight patent suits.


On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Raymond Feist 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

On Mar 29, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Brian Jones (Trancendance) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I’d say it already is

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Sent: 29 March 2013 20:29
To: feistfans-l
Subject: Re: Discussion with friend about Kelewan

As you mentioned before, Plagarism is a very specific legal term and has a high 
level of scrutiny to be actionable. All work is derivative to one extent or 
another, there are only so man scenarios and variation that echo the human 
condition sufficiently to entice an audience. For me what it comes down to is, 
how well is it written. Stealing dialogue is to me true plagerism. Utilizing 
defacto-standards, common themes and plot devices - not so much. My biggest 
worry about the expanded patent and copyright systems is that they go well 
beyond protecting IP into crushing innovation



Borrowing themes and situations will get you into court.  It will not win your 
case.  I spent enough time around Intellectual property lawyers when I was 
Chairman of the Contracts Committee to have picked up a couple of things.

As for all work being derivative, there are two things I commonly point to when 
that assertion is made: 1) you've got eight Greek plays and then everyone else 
started stealing and 2) Shakespeare stole pretty much everything he wrote, but 
we remember him and not the guys he stole from because he did it better than 
they did.  It's not what you do, it's how you do it.

As for your paranoia about expanding protections, you're lumping patents and 
copyrights together, which is a mistake.  Trademark/Patents are completely 
different critters from copyright.  The former are issued by the US Patent 
Office and your first burden is to show you're not treading on someone else's 
trademark or patent.  The second is create the instant you write a song, paint 
a picture, pen a novel or poem, or take a photograph, and you need to 
nothing--there are legal advantages to registering a copyright, but it's not 
necessary.  You can lose a trademark or patent if you don't defend it.  You 
can't lose a copyright by inaction.  Lots of other differences too.  Whatever 
issues code and chip patents and the like might bear down on innovation, 
copyright laws do not keep people from creating music, books, etc.  In fact, if 
anything they've been reigned in a little with the change to copyright which 
limits a corporations hold on copyright to 90 years, since corporations rarely 
"die."  That doesn't mean Disney doesn't have other ways to crush you if you 
try to make free with Micky Mouse stuff that's become public domain, but that's 
a whole 'nother discussion.

Best,R.E.F.

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