On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 13:06 +0100, Rhythmic Fistman wrote: > On 2/16/07, skaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lets remove some artificial barriers. Go ahead .. :) The main page is not in the repository .. everything else is. > There should be: > > - a ready to go cut'n'pasteable svn checkout command immediately > visible on the first page of the web page. > (svn co https://felix.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/felix/felix/trunk felix) only works on unix but, i guess windows ppl will get the hint > Hell, stick it in your .sigs and go and cause some [new] trouble on > mailing lists that work. Felix: HOFs, lightweight threads, c10k > contender: svn co ... I'm not the only one with a sig.. yours is a bit bare :) > - a user faq (how to write hello world) First page of the tutorial? > - an accessible mailing list (the sourceforge one isn't). I've been using > this > gmail address to post to usenet and it has never once given me even > a fraction > of the pain in the hole that sourceforge has. Whereas I can't get Google to register me at all, whilst I've been using my sf email as my sole public email address for half a decade. SF uses the most popular email list manager in the world.. almost everyone else uses Mailman too. > - a way to commit to the repository. unlink commiting from the > mailing list. The link to the mailing list is essential IMHO: it reports changes as they're made, otherwise there's no easy way to track what is being done. > why > should the difficulties in committing [rare] be heaped onto the > difficulties > of asking a question [common]? Only subscribers can post to the list, to stop spam. > it effectively rules out both. if this were > as easy as the google groups posting, that would be great. (is this what > google code is?). if people can actually get felix, ask a question on the > mailing list and form an opionon on what'd they'd like to change, let them > submit the odd patch/svn diff via the mailing list that we apply manually, > like happens on the SDL mailing list. if they get serious then we can fiddle > with accounts/permissions. People can submit patches right now if they want. I'm just lazy, I'd rather they just commit them. > > There shouldn't be: > > - outdated tarballs. if it's a problem keeping them up to date via > a script or somesuch, then better not to have them at all. The makefile can build, test, tar, upload, and unpack the doco in a single target -- assuming ssh is up, which it isn't at the moment. But it is a pain, because if there's a bug, it's a bugged tarball and I have to do the whole thing again. > they waste > the one-time "initial effort" of newbies. yeah. > svn's common enough. For developers.. > - two web pages. felix.sf.net and the wiki, both mined with "dummy" > felix tarballs. the wiki looks better and google seems to like it > more. why not retire it in favour of the wiki? Because, 99% of the web site is machine generated. In fact the WHOLE website is entirely machine generated except for the home page. There's no way to store generated data in a Wiki. > - sourceforge. it's shit. But everything else is shittier. SF is big, being on it gives people a sense of confidence that the repository won't just evaporate. It also provides a STABLE set of web and email addresses. I agree the services are so crash hot: not indexing the email lists sucks. I get really annoyed when the top project is always something *already* popular, and they rank all the wrong things to determine activity. I guess I live with it because I care about Felix, not the site it is hosted on. -- John Skaller <skaller at users dot sf dot net> Felix, successor to C++: http://felix.sf.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Felix-language mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/felix-language
