Well, just my own simplistic attitude about this whole thing--viruses are strange little things in humans & animals. The science is just now catching up with the 'life cycle' of viruses and more & more we hear about viruses that we all carry than can sort of be activated by a variety of circumstances. When it comes to the FELV virus, I sort of feel that it probably is carried by many more cats than anyone knows, that for some reason, some cats start showing symptoms & become carriers, and that unless you have a kitten from birth that you test at least once a year & always keep inside & never expose to another cat, you never really know who is carrying what! Now, I would never consciously expose a kitten to any disease, no matter what it is, but for my adults (particularly with vaccination), I just don' think I am putting them at any greater risk than if they were out and about on their own (which they all were before they found me!).
Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: OT:FIV false positive? Right - the FIV cats are at less risk, and considered less contagious. It's considered to be only contagious thru deep bite wounds, so the study mentioned is interesting. Gloria At 12:15 PM 3/29/2005, you wrote: >Just for my own info if you con't mind--so FIV cats are really at less risk >from virus than FELV cats? > >Chris >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane >Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:13 PM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: RE: OT:FIV false positive? > >FIV cats can normally be expected to live long lives if well cared for >(for example, not outside as strays). > >Gloria > >At 10:44 AM 3/29/2005, you wrote: > >I have a couple of questions/thoughts on this. First, no mention of anyone > >vaccinated, no indication of cats' ages, etc. Also, given the > >shortcomings of initial testing (virus may be hidden), I would think it > >would be hard to tell with absolute certainty who had what when! I was > >also intrigued by the last statement: "The FIV infection did not adversely > >affect the cats' life expectancy" I'm not sure what that means-cats can > >have virus and have no effect??? I don't know much about FIV so maybe I'm > >just not understanding something basic. Finally, do you know what the > >study's purpose was? Sometimes, the 'side' results of a study are not > >fully explored if they don't fall in the realm of the original > >purpose. And absolute last, 5 years is a long time in this field. > > > >Chris > ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya > >Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 6:11 AM > >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >Subject: Re: OT:FIV false positive? > > > >I don't know........ but I know 2 vets who mix fiv cats in their own homes > >with negatives. > > > >tonya > > > >gg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Hi MC, > > > >Whenever I see something of interest, I use CISTI which allows you full > >access to the "neverending" research on whatever one wishes. The study > >that I recall that I ordered a few years ago that confirmed non-aggressive > >transmission (other than "paw flailing" at their feeding station) was this > >one. Here's the abstract: > > > > > >: Vet Rec. 2000 Apr 8;146(15):419-24. Related Articles, Links > > > >Long-term impact on a closed household of pet cats of natural infection > >with feline coronavirus, feline leukaemia virus and feline > >immunodeficiency virus. > > > >Addie DD, Dennis JM, Toth S, Callanan JJ, Reid S, Jarrett O. > > > >Department of Veterinary Pathology, University of Glasgow Veterinary > >School, Bearsden. > > > >A closed household of 26 cats in which feline coronavirus (FCoV), feline > >leukaemia virus (FeLV) and feline immunodeficiency virus (FIV) were > >endemic was observed for 10 years. > > > >Each cat was seropositive for FCoV on at least one occasion and the > >infection was maintained by reinfection. After 10 years, three of six > >surviving cats were still seropositive. > > > >Only one cat, which was also infected with FIV, developed feline > >infectious peritonitis (FIP). Rising anti-FCoV antibody titres did not > >indicate that the cat would develop FIP. > > > >The FeLV infection was self-limiting because all seven of the initially > >viraemic cats died within five years and the remainder were immune. > > > >However, FeLV had the greatest impact on mortality. Nine cats were > >initially FIV-positive and six more cats became infected during the course > >of the study, without evidence of having been bitten. > > > >The FIV infection did not adversely affect the cats' life expectancy. > > > >PMID: 10811262 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > >Kind regards, > > > >Glenda > > > >Our FeLV/FIV kitties & other stuff: > ><http://community.webshots.com/user/sicky_icicle>http://community.webshots. >com/user/sicky_icicle > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: TenHouseCats <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > >Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:37 PM > >Subject: Re: OT:FIV false positive? > > > > > hideyo, i would be very interested in seeing any info showing > > > non-aggressive contact passing the FIV virus--that goes against > > > everything i have read and if there IS such info, it's important that > > > all of us with positives know! (i tend to suspect it's not current > > > info, but since things change so quickly now that they're actually > > > doing research, i'm open....) > > > > > > thanks! > > > > > > MC
