I've never heard of Nutrical, is it a food supplement? This sounds very
good and quite easy to give, at this point I am willing to try anything.
Thank you so much, I will be picking up a tube tomorrow.
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From: <i>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</i><br>Reply-To:
<i>felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</i><br>To:
<i>felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</i><br>Subject: <i>Re: RE:
Lisa--Nutrical</i><br>Date: <i>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:16:34
-0500</i><br>>This is a good way to administer Nutrical, if it hasn't
been suggested<br>>already! It's a high-calorie gel that comes in a tube
(can also be<br>>found at Petsmart, etc.)...just put some on your finger
and scrape<br>>against the roof of kitty's mouth...I've also put some on
paws so that<br>>they're forced to lick it off...but you can't put too
much as cat's have<br>>a tendency to want to shake it off before they
lick it off...I've got<br>>splatterings of Nutrical all over the
kitchen!<br>><br>><br>>****************************************************<br>>"But
if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will
be<br>>unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the
world; You<br>>become responsible, forever, for what you have
tamed..." --Antoine de<br>>Saint-Exupéry<br>><br>>"If you
talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know<br>>each
other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and
what<br>>you do not know you will fear. What one fears one
destroys." --Chief Dan<br>>George<br>><br>>----- Original
Message -----<br>>From: Hideyo Yamamoto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br>>Date: Wednesday, August 31,
2005 11:13 am<br>>Subject: RE: Lisa<br>><br>> > Hi, Lisa, are
you using syringe? I have one cat, Leo who just<br>> > hated
to<br>> > be fed with syringe and everthing could come out from his
mouth ---<br>> ><br>> > My vet also told me a different way of
feeding with your finger - you<br>> > take a pallatble food like baby
food or cannned food, and put some on<br>> > the tip of your pointing
finger . you put the food side up (the<br>> > oppositeside of where
your nail is), and put it into his mouth --<br>> > rub against<br>>
> the top of his palate -<br>> ><br>> > How is he doing
today?<br>> > -----Original Message-----<br>> > From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>> >
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elizabeth<br>>
> PazSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:11 PM<br>> > To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<br>> > Subject: Hideyo<br>>
><br>> ><br>> > Thank you for your kind words, I will keep
trying. It just that he<br>> > struggles so much that I worry about
getting him all stressed out. He<br>> > does<br>> > put up one
heck of a struggle. His head is so strong and it moves<br>> >
so<br>> > quickly.<br>> ><br>> > But I will keep trying.
He was so ill in 03 that we did not think he<br>> > would<br>>
> make it but we worked so hard on getting him so healthy and
chubby.<br>> > butthis<br>> > is so different with the food. I
can easily give him his pills, but<br>> > this<br>> > food
stuff, what can I say, this is just tearing my heart up.<br>>
><br>> > Thank You for support.<br>> > Lisa<br>>
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]&gt;</i><br>Reply-To:<br>>
> <i>felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</i><br>To:<br>>
>
<i><felvtalk@felineleukemia.org&gt;</i><br>Subject:
<i>RE: Won't<br>> > Eat....Please
Help</i><br>Date: <i>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 17:20:06<br>>
> -0600</i><br>&gt;Lisa, I can emphasize your pain - my
Felv positive,<br>> > Ginger<br>> >
stopped<br>&gt;eating for over a week a several months<br>>
> ago.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;She is already a very small
girl, and did not want<br>> > her<br>> > to lose any
more<br>&gt;weight - so as Nina mentioned, I assisted<br>> >
her to<br>> > eat<br>> > with syringe every<br>&gt;day
with baby food and liver shake<br>> >
-<br>&gt;<br>&gt;I will be praying that your kitty will
bounce back<br>> > very<br>> > soon - so
stay<br>&gt;calm (I know it's hard, but do your best) and<br>>
> talkto<br>> > him gently and<br>&gt;tell him how much
he means to you and how he is<br>> > going<br>> > to get better
very<br>&gt;very soon..<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Love
and hugs to<br>> > you<br>> > and your
kitty..<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Hideyo<br>&gt;<br>&gt;-----Original<br>>
> Message-----<br>&gt;From:<br>> >
[EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>&gt;[mailto:Felvtalk-<br>>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>> > On Behalf Of
Nina<br>&gt;Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:55<br>> >
PM<br>&gt;To:<br>> >
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<br>&gt;Subject: Re: Won't
Eat....Please<br>> > Help<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Hi
Lisa,<br>&gt;I can hear the panic in your voice<br>> >
and<br>> > how very much you love your<br>&gt;Kitty. You
are right, you need to<br>> > get<br>> > him to eat. It is
wonderful<br>&gt;that he has been so healthy<br>> > and
has<br>> > a<br>> > few extra pounds to help
him<br>&gt;maintain right now. He is in<br>> >
dangerof<br>> > HL if he goes without eating<br>&gt;anything
in a 24 to 48 hour<br>> > period.<br>> > That means if you get
something<br>&gt;down him, he'll probably be<br>> >
okay.I<br>> > know the sound of
&quot;syringe<br>&gt;feeding&quot; can be<br>> >
intimidating.<br>> > Don't think of it as &quot;force&quot;
feeding,<br>&gt;think of it<br>> > as<br>> >
&quot;assisted&quot; feeding. Like you would a baby. There
is<br>> > a<br>&gt;group for help with this, here's
the<br>> >
link:<br>&gt;http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-<br>>
> Feeding/<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Poor<br>> > thing
must be so panicky with his eyes giving him trouble<br>> >
like<br>&gt;that.<br>> > Not to mention the vet trip from
Hell. All he's going to<br>> > want<br>&gt;to do<br>>
> is hide. Please try to calm yourself. Put on some soft music<br>>
> and<br>&gt;<br>&gt;keep the room he's in dark. If
he wants to<br>> > hide, go<br>> > ahead and let
him,<br>&gt;(after you get his meds and some food in him<br>>
> of<br>> > course). Speak softly<br>&gt;to him and tell
him how the two of you<br>> > will<br>> > see this through
together.<br>&gt;Tell him you will do your very<br>> > best
to<br>> ><br>> > make sure no one scares him,
or<br>&gt;puts him through any more<br>> >
traumathan<br>> > absolutely necessary. (I'd like<br>&gt;to
punch your substitute<br>> > vet in<br>> > the<br>> > neck
btw).<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Prayers that Kitty rebounds soon,
please let<br>> > us<br>> > know how you guys<br>> >
are<br>&gt;doing,<br>&gt;Nina<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Elizabeth
Paz<br>> > wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;
&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Hi everyone,<br>&gt;<br>>
> &gt;<br>&gt;<br>> > &gt; Has anyone got any
ideas on how to get some food into my<br>> >
kitty?<br>&gt;<br>> > &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; He
has had FELV since 03. He was a very sick<br>> > kitty and<br>>
> we<br>> > were a<br>&gt; &gt; breath away from
having to put him to sleep. We<br>> > wanted<br>> > to try
and<br>&gt; &gt; give him a chance, even though our Vet
and<br>> > the<br>> > Ophthalmologist that<br>&gt;
&gt; was treating kitty's eyes were<br>> > againstit.<br>> >
He was on Prednisone 5mg a<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;
day for about 6<br>> > months, he<br>> > began looking and
acting healthier. then<br>&gt; &gt; his meds were<br>> >
changed<br>> > to half a pill each day, and then finally a
half<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>> > &gt; a<br>>
> pill<br>> > every other day.<br>&gt;
&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; August of 04 he was<br>> > taken
off<br>> > of<br>> > all meds, and became a healthy
chubby<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; cat. ( 16<br>> >
lbs) He<br>> > has been wonderful till Friday of last week.
Then<br>&gt; &gt; over<br>> > this<br>> > weekend
his eyes clouded over (Uveitis returned) and he
is<br>&gt;<br>> > &gt;not<br>> > eating a thing.
I have tried everything, even his favorite<br>> >
snack,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; and no
way.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; We<br>> >
went to<br>> > the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what, the Dr.
who<br>> > has<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>> >
&gt; worked with us is on holiday. What a mess. The one that we
saw<br>> > was<br>> > a<br>&gt;<br>&gt;
&gt; bit of a fruit cake. She tried to draw blood<br>> >
andhad<br>> > such a problem,<br>&gt; &gt; it took three
tries with kitty crying,<br>> > can't<br>> > even tell you what
I was<br>&gt; &gt; going to do to her if hubby had<br>>
> not<br>> > stepped in. I spoke to her about<br>&gt;
&gt; the prednisone. She<br>> > saidshe<br>> > did not
want to put him back on the<br>&gt; &gt; prednisone at
this<br>> > timeand<br>> > on and on and on. I told her our Dr.
made<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; it<br>> >
quite<br>> > clear to us,( it was down on his chart also ) that if
we<br>> > saw<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; that he was
sliding to get him back on the<br>> > Prednisone. It was
like<br>&gt; &gt; talking to the wall. She<br>> > gave
me<br>> > an<br>> > anti-biotic for ten days for
him<br>&gt; &gt; and that was<br>> >
it.<br>&gt;<br>> > &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Today
I called and got one of the other vets who<br>> > pulled<br>> >
Kitty's chart<br>&gt; &gt; and gave me a prescription for
the<br>> > prednisone. I<br>> > will be starting
it<br>&gt; &gt; later. Tomorrow we will be taking<br>>
> himto<br>> > his Ophthalmologist and<br>&gt; &gt;
hopefully she will be able to get<br>> > his<br>> > eyes back
under control. Please<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;
God.<br>&gt;<br>> > &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; I am
quite sure at this time he is only seeing<br>> > shadows,<br>> >
and is so<br>&gt; &gt; frightened from every noise. I can't
get<br>> > him to<br>> > eat.<br>> > I know
how<br>&gt; &gt; important this is on a chubby cat, and
how<br>> > quickly<br>> > they can get...<br>&gt;
&gt; Hepatic Lipidosis and it may be fatal<br>> > withhis<br>>
> immune system..<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; A
few moments ago I put a<br>> > little<br>> > food on my finger
and had to force<br>&gt; &gt; his little mouth open<br>>
> and I<br>> > put it on the back of his tongue. He
did<br>&gt; &gt; swallow it, and<br>> > is<br>> >
now sleeping.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Would
anyone know of any other<br>> > way<br>> > of doing
it.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Sorry about this
winded letter,<br>> > it<br>> > has been a long and
heartbreaking 5<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>> >
days.<br>&gt;<br>> > &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;
Thank you for taking the time to read it.<br>&gt;<br>> >
&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Lisa.<br>&gt;
&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;<br>> >
&gt;<br>&gt;<br>> > &gt;<br>&gt;<br>>
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- Jen----Nutrical Elizabeth Paz
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