I've never heard of Nutrical, is it a food supplement? This sounds very good and quite easy to give, at this point I am willing to try anything. Thank you so much, I will be picking up a tube tomorrow.

<BLOCKQUOTE style='PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #A0C6E5 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px'><font style='FONT-SIZE:11px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif'><hr color=#A0C6E5 size=1> From: <i>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</i><br>Reply-To: <i>felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</i><br>To: <i>felvtalk@felineleukemia.org</i><br>Subject: <i>Re: RE: Lisa--Nutrical</i><br>Date: <i>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:16:34 -0500</i><br>&gt;This is a good way to administer Nutrical, if it hasn't been suggested<br>&gt;already! It's a high-calorie gel that comes in a tube (can also be<br>&gt;found at Petsmart, etc.)...just put some on your finger and scrape<br>&gt;against the roof of kitty's mouth...I've also put some on paws so that<br>&gt;they're forced to lick it off...but you can't put too much as cat's have<br>&gt;a tendency to want to shake it off before they lick it off...I've got<br>&gt;splatterings of Nutrical all over the kitchen!<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;****************************************************<br>&gt;&quot;But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be<br>&gt;unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You<br>&gt;become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed...&quot; --Antoine de<br>&gt;Saint-Exupéry<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&quot;If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know<br>&gt;each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what<br>&gt;you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys.&quot; --Chief Dan<br>&gt;George<br>&gt;<br>&gt;----- Original Message -----<br>&gt;From: Hideyo Yamamoto &lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]&gt;<br>&gt;Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:13 am<br>&gt;Subject: RE: Lisa<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Hi, Lisa, are you using syringe? I have one cat, Leo who just<br>&gt; &gt; hated to<br>&gt; &gt; be fed with syringe and everthing could come out from his mouth ---<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; My vet also told me a different way of feeding with your finger - you<br>&gt; &gt; take a pallatble food like baby food or cannned food, and put some on<br>&gt; &gt; the tip of your pointing finger . you put the food side up (the<br>&gt; &gt; oppositeside of where your nail is), and put it into his mouth --<br>&gt; &gt; rub against<br>&gt; &gt; the top of his palate -<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; How is he doing today?<br>&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>&gt; &gt; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>&gt; &gt; [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elizabeth<br>&gt; &gt; PazSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:11 PM<br>&gt; &gt; To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<br>&gt; &gt; Subject: Hideyo<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Thank you for your kind words, I will keep trying. It just that he<br>&gt; &gt; struggles so much that I worry about getting him all stressed out. He<br>&gt; &gt; does<br>&gt; &gt; put up one heck of a struggle. His head is so strong and it moves<br>&gt; &gt; so<br>&gt; &gt; quickly.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; But I will keep trying. He was so ill in 03 that we did not think he<br>&gt; &gt; would<br>&gt; &gt; make it but we worked so hard on getting him so healthy and chubby.<br>&gt; &gt; butthis<br>&gt; &gt; is so different with the food. I can easily give him his pills, but<br>&gt; &gt; this<br>&gt; &gt; food stuff, what can I say, this is just tearing my heart up.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Thank You for support.<br>&gt; &gt; Lisa<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &lt;BLOCKQUOTE style='PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:<br>&gt; &gt; #A0C6E5<br>&gt; &gt; 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px'&gt;&lt;font<br>&gt; &gt; style='FONT-SIZE:11px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif'&gt;&lt;hr<br>&gt; &gt; color=#A0C6E5<br>&gt; &gt; size=1&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; From: &lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;Hideyo Yamamoto&amp;quot;<br>&gt; &gt; &lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]&amp;gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;Reply-To:<br>&gt; &gt; &lt;i&gt;felvtalk@felineleukemia.org&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;To:<br>&gt; &gt; &lt;i&gt;&lt;felvtalk@felineleukemia.org&amp;gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;Subject: &lt;i&gt;RE: Won't<br>&gt; &gt; Eat....Please Help&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;Date: &lt;i&gt;Tue, 30 Aug 2005 17:20:06<br>&gt; &gt; -0600&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Lisa, I can emphasize your pain - my Felv positive,<br>&gt; &gt; Ginger<br>&gt; &gt; stopped&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;eating for over a week a several months<br>&gt; &gt; ago.&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;She is already a very small girl, and did not want<br>&gt; &gt; her<br>&gt; &gt; to lose any more&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;weight - so as Nina mentioned, I assisted<br>&gt; &gt; her to<br>&gt; &gt; eat<br>&gt; &gt; with syringe every&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;day with baby food and liver shake<br>&gt; &gt; -&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;I will be praying that your kitty will bounce back<br>&gt; &gt; very<br>&gt; &gt; soon - so stay&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;calm (I know it's hard, but do your best) and<br>&gt; &gt; talkto<br>&gt; &gt; him gently and&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;tell him how much he means to you and how he is<br>&gt; &gt; going<br>&gt; &gt; to get better very&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;very soon..&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Love and hugs to<br>&gt; &gt; you<br>&gt; &gt; and your kitty..&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Hideyo&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;-----Original<br>&gt; &gt; Message-----&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;From:<br>&gt; &gt; [EMAIL PROTECTED]&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;[mailto:Felvtalk-<br>&gt; &gt; [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>&gt; &gt; On Behalf Of Nina&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:55<br>&gt; &gt; PM&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;To:<br>&gt; &gt; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Subject: Re: Won't Eat....Please<br>&gt; &gt; Help&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Hi Lisa,&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;I can hear the panic in your voice<br>&gt; &gt; and<br>&gt; &gt; how very much you love your&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Kitty. You are right, you need to<br>&gt; &gt; get<br>&gt; &gt; him to eat. It is wonderful&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;that he has been so healthy<br>&gt; &gt; and has<br>&gt; &gt; a<br>&gt; &gt; few extra pounds to help him&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;maintain right now. He is in<br>&gt; &gt; dangerof<br>&gt; &gt; HL if he goes without eating&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;anything in a 24 to 48 hour<br>&gt; &gt; period.<br>&gt; &gt; That means if you get something&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;down him, he'll probably be<br>&gt; &gt; okay.I<br>&gt; &gt; know the sound of &amp;quot;syringe&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;feeding&amp;quot; can be<br>&gt; &gt; intimidating.<br>&gt; &gt; Don't think of it as &amp;quot;force&amp;quot; feeding,&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;think of it<br>&gt; &gt; as<br>&gt; &gt; &amp;quot;assisted&amp;quot; feeding. Like you would a baby. There is<br>&gt; &gt; a&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;group for help with this, here's the<br>&gt; &gt; link:&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-<br>&gt; &gt; Feeding/&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Poor<br>&gt; &gt; thing must be so panicky with his eyes giving him trouble<br>&gt; &gt; like&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;that.<br>&gt; &gt; Not to mention the vet trip from Hell. All he's going to<br>&gt; &gt; want&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;to do<br>&gt; &gt; is hide. Please try to calm yourself. Put on some soft music<br>&gt; &gt; and&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;keep the room he's in dark. If he wants to<br>&gt; &gt; hide, go<br>&gt; &gt; ahead and let him,&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;(after you get his meds and some food in him<br>&gt; &gt; of<br>&gt; &gt; course). Speak softly&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;to him and tell him how the two of you<br>&gt; &gt; will<br>&gt; &gt; see this through together.&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Tell him you will do your very<br>&gt; &gt; best to<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; make sure no one scares him, or&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;puts him through any more<br>&gt; &gt; traumathan<br>&gt; &gt; absolutely necessary. (I'd like&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;to punch your substitute<br>&gt; &gt; vet in<br>&gt; &gt; the<br>&gt; &gt; neck btw).&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Prayers that Kitty rebounds soon, please let<br>&gt; &gt; us<br>&gt; &gt; know how you guys<br>&gt; &gt; are&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;doing,&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Nina&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Elizabeth Paz<br>&gt; &gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Hi everyone,&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Has anyone got any ideas on how to get some food into my<br>&gt; &gt; kitty?&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; He has had FELV since 03. He was a very sick<br>&gt; &gt; kitty and<br>&gt; &gt; we<br>&gt; &gt; were a&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; breath away from having to put him to sleep. We<br>&gt; &gt; wanted<br>&gt; &gt; to try and&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; give him a chance, even though our Vet and<br>&gt; &gt; the<br>&gt; &gt; Ophthalmologist that&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; was treating kitty's eyes were<br>&gt; &gt; againstit.<br>&gt; &gt; He was on Prednisone 5mg a&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; day for about 6<br>&gt; &gt; months, he<br>&gt; &gt; began looking and acting healthier. then&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; his meds were<br>&gt; &gt; changed<br>&gt; &gt; to half a pill each day, and then finally a half&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; a<br>&gt; &gt; pill<br>&gt; &gt; every other day.&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; August of 04 he was<br>&gt; &gt; taken off<br>&gt; &gt; of<br>&gt; &gt; all meds, and became a healthy chubby&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; cat. ( 16<br>&gt; &gt; lbs) He<br>&gt; &gt; has been wonderful till Friday of last week. Then&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; over<br>&gt; &gt; this<br>&gt; &gt; weekend his eyes clouded over (Uveitis returned) and he is&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &amp;gt;not<br>&gt; &gt; eating a thing. I have tried everything, even his favorite<br>&gt; &gt; snack,&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; and no way.&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; We<br>&gt; &gt; went to<br>&gt; &gt; the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what, the Dr. who<br>&gt; &gt; has&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &amp;gt; worked with us is on holiday. What a mess. The one that we saw<br>&gt; &gt; was<br>&gt; &gt; a&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; bit of a fruit cake. She tried to draw blood<br>&gt; &gt; andhad<br>&gt; &gt; such a problem,&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; it took three tries with kitty crying,<br>&gt; &gt; can't<br>&gt; &gt; even tell you what I was&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; going to do to her if hubby had<br>&gt; &gt; not<br>&gt; &gt; stepped in. I spoke to her about&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; the prednisone. She<br>&gt; &gt; saidshe<br>&gt; &gt; did not want to put him back on the&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; prednisone at this<br>&gt; &gt; timeand<br>&gt; &gt; on and on and on. I told her our Dr. made&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; it<br>&gt; &gt; quite<br>&gt; &gt; clear to us,( it was down on his chart also ) that if we<br>&gt; &gt; saw&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; that he was sliding to get him back on the<br>&gt; &gt; Prednisone. It was like&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; talking to the wall. She<br>&gt; &gt; gave me<br>&gt; &gt; an<br>&gt; &gt; anti-biotic for ten days for him&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; and that was<br>&gt; &gt; it.&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Today I called and got one of the other vets who<br>&gt; &gt; pulled<br>&gt; &gt; Kitty's chart&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; and gave me a prescription for the<br>&gt; &gt; prednisone. I<br>&gt; &gt; will be starting it&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; later. Tomorrow we will be taking<br>&gt; &gt; himto<br>&gt; &gt; his Ophthalmologist and&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; hopefully she will be able to get<br>&gt; &gt; his<br>&gt; &gt; eyes back under control. Please&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; God.&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; I am quite sure at this time he is only seeing<br>&gt; &gt; shadows,<br>&gt; &gt; and is so&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; frightened from every noise. I can't get<br>&gt; &gt; him to<br>&gt; &gt; eat.<br>&gt; &gt; I know how&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; important this is on a chubby cat, and how<br>&gt; &gt; quickly<br>&gt; &gt; they can get...&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Hepatic Lipidosis and it may be fatal<br>&gt; &gt; withhis<br>&gt; &gt; immune system..&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; A few moments ago I put a<br>&gt; &gt; little<br>&gt; &gt; food on my finger and had to force&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; his little mouth open<br>&gt; &gt; and I<br>&gt; &gt; put it on the back of his tongue. He did&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; swallow it, and<br>&gt; &gt; is<br>&gt; &gt; now sleeping.&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Would anyone know of any other<br>&gt; &gt; way<br>&gt; &gt; of doing it.&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Sorry about this winded letter,<br>&gt; &gt; it<br>&gt; &gt; has been a long and heartbreaking 5&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;<br>&gt; &gt; days.&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Thank you for taking the time to read it.&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Lisa.&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;<br></font></BLOCKQUOTE>



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