From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: timing on FeLV+ test
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 05:49:35 -0700 (PDT)
If I were in your situation I would mix. BUT I would not be second
guessing myself if one of the others happens to turn up positive down the
line. Unless you've had your other cats recently tested they couled be
positive right now. Cats can harbor the virus for years. So in my opinion
I would mix if all my other cats' leukemia shots were up to date.
After 10 years of no one catching felv from my positives I've stopped
vaccinating for it every year.
tonya
Kathi Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Althea, 13
Tabitha, 11
Bear, 5
Oreo, 1
Connie, 1
>From: catatonya
>Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: timing on FeLV+ test
>Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 19:31:42 -0700 (PDT)
>
>How old are the other 5?
>
>Kathi Clark wrote: Are you all saying that if my
>5 kitties have been vaccinated and boostered
>for FeLV (July 2006) that Ellie, my FeLV+ kitty, can join them now???? I
>have her separated and planned to keep her separated from the others
until
>I
>get the results of her IFA on October 13. October 13 will be 120 days
from
>the first positive IFA; she tested positive on the ELISSA a month before
>that. Even if she's still positive after the second IFA, is it okay to
>integrate her with the others? I have one kitty who would wrestle and
hiss
>and spit playfully with her because he already has. Oreo tested positive
on
>the ELISSA after contact with Ellie but tested negative on his IFA a
month
>later. I now know that the vet retested him too soon but I'm too scared
to
>have him retested with another IFA. I couldn't bear to know that my boy,
my
>favorite, is still infected. I'd rather not know. Right after the
negative
>IFA, I added Oreo to the bunch. Ellie, on the other hand, is a different
>story. I need to know what to do before I integrate her. She's SO very
>lonely in a bedroom all by herself. I just would feel like a horrible
>mother if any of my others came down with FeLV and it was because of
Ellie.
>Please tell me what to do. I want the best for everyone -- me, my negs
and
>my one positive!
>
>Kathi
>
>
> >From: "Susan Franklin"
> >Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >To: ,
> >Subject: Re: timing on FeLV+ test
> >Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 08:05:43 -0500
> >
> >Thank you thank you thank you.
> >
> >My girls go for their second booster on September 26. Gunnar is having
> >his first IFA test on December 1.
> >
> >So you think TWO WEEKS after the last booster and Gunnar can join the
> >family?????? That is so wonderful to hear! He's a sweetie and I can't
> >wait for him to be a part of us - learning the routines, teaching us
> >stuff he knows and just being a family together.
> >
> > >From the bottom of my heart, thank you all for your encouraging
words,
> >your knowledge and your love.
> >
> >P.S. Can anyone tell me how I can change my email address for this
> >chat site??
> >
> >
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/16/06 8:02:25 PM >>>
> >Once your negative cats are vaccinated, boostered and then wait maybe 2
> >weeks........... I would mix without worrying about dishes and litters
> >at all.
> > t
> >
> >Susan Franklin wrote:
> > You guys, as I've said before, are FANTASTIC. Whenever I get down
> >about
> >stuff I read on other Internet sites regarding mixing or throwing off
> >the virus, I can always count on coming to you and getting an
> >optimistic, truthful and knowledgeable answer.
> >
> >Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!! I will reschedule Gunnar's
> >appointment for 120 days from August 3. Instead of re-testing with the
> >ELISA, I will have the IFA test done. That is correct??
> >
> >And if, God forbid, the IFA is positive after 120 days, how many more
> >days would you recommend I wait before I retest again??
> >
> >And are you guys okay with mixing?? My girls are 16 and almost 8.
> >Gunnar is 1-1/2 or 2. The girls are in the process of being
> >vaccinated.
> >I'm sure they won't be grooming each other, so all I need to do is
> >keep
> >the litter box clean and worry about the food/water bowls. I can pick
> >up breakfast/lunch/dinner dishes immediately after meals, but what's
> >the
> >best route to take regarding the water bowl? And I guess I would clean
> >the litter box in the morning and when I get home each night from work.
> >
> >Does this sound like a safe plan? Any other suggestions would be
> >appreciated.
> >
> >Again, thank you from the bottom of my heart for all your advice and
> >words of wisdom. You've made a nervous "sister" to three cats a more
> >calmer person. Like I told our vet, who said "don't count on it" when
> >I told her we were literally praying to throw the virus, I trust and
> >believe more in what I read on this site than I would the vet's office.
> >
> >You guys have "been there, done that." And you've got love, which is
> >the strongest feeling of all.
> >
> >God bless all of you and your kitties!!
> >
> >Keep the faith.
> >
> >Susan F.
> >Chicago, Illinois
> >sister to Kelly (16 - just had her Sweet 16 on Saturday), Meagan
> >(7-1/2) and Gunnar (1-1/2-2).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/11/06 3:07:48 PM >>>
> >retest using the IFA at a minimum of 90 days--i go for 120 days since
> >most
> >times it takes between three and four months to clear the virus--so
> >unless
> >you are absolutely sure that he couldn't have been in contact with an
> >infected cat that entire amount, better to wait.
> >
> >statistically, 70% of those originally tested positive on the ELISA
> >will
> >test negative on the IFA--if you do not test too soon. as belinda
> >says,
> >even
> >if an IFA is positive after 90-120 days, it's still not a
> >definite--the
> >virus can still clear itself.
> >
> >
> >On 9/11/06, Nina wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm confused about who is asking what here. Who's the person that
> >is
> > > using caps to talk with? Anyway, this was just posted on my feral
> >list in
> > > answer to questions about ELISA vs IFA. I don't know this person,
> >(and I
> > > hope he wouldn't mind my copying his post for our list), but his
> >response
> > > seemed knowledgeable and even in my foggy state of mind, a
> >reasonable
> > > explanation. I had thought that it wasn't possible to detect felv
> >antigens
> > > in the bone marrow, (sequestered), even with an IFA. I thought I'd
> >throw
> > > his comments out there for others to comment on.
> > > Nina
> > >
> > > > the ELISA is about 100 times more sensitive than the IFA- but
> > > not as specific- which accounts for the high % of false positives.
> >The
> > > ELISA detects soluble (circulating) P27 antigen while the IFA
> >detects
> >P27
> > > antigen in nucleated cells, neutrophils and platelets, or in bone
> >marrow
> > > cells.
> > >
> > > IFAs depend upon advanced stages of infection to detect the presence
> >of
> > > antigen and thus will not usually pick up early infections or
> >sequestered
> > > infections. The increased sensitivity of the ELISA allows the
> >detection of
> > > early infections, transient infections, and sequestered infections
> >that may
> > > not be picked up by the IFA.
> > >
> > > Neither the ELISA nor IFA will not detect viral latency, because
> >during
> > > viral latency P27 antigen is not being produced. >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Susan Franklin wrote:
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/11/06 8:37:18 AM >>>
> > >
> > >
> > > Susan,
> > > I would wait *at least* 90 days and then get the IFA test. WOULD
> >I
> > > NOT WANT TO GET THE ELISSA TEST AGAIN??? ISN'T THE IFA TEST "THE
> >FINAL
> > > SAY"??? IF THE IFA CAME BACK POSITIVE, WOULD I CONTINUE TO RETEST
> >WITH
> > > THE IFA? AND HOW OFTEN?
> > >
> > > Keep
> > > giving the Mega C and good food and hopefully he will clear the
> >virus.
> > >
> > > But if not and it could take longer than 90 days, he'll still be
> > > healthier with the supplements and better food, which gives him a
> > > better
> > > chance of fighting off any opportunistic diseases or viruses. WILL
> >DO.
> > > THANK YOU.
> > >
> > > I had Bailey tested once a year for about the first 5 years by then
> >it
> > >
> > > was obvious he wasn't going to throw it off, this is after the
> >initial
> > >
> > > retest in 90 days. I had him PCR tested when he was about 8 years
> >old
> > >
> > > and it was in his DNA. But he was healthy up until he got sick at
> > > almost 11 years of age, and he tested positive at 5 months of age,
> >so
> > > he
> > > lived a very good life for about 11 years being positive. AND THANK
> > > THE GOOD LORD BAILEY HAD YOU!!!!!!!!!! I'M GOING TO DO ALL I CAN FOR
> >MY
> > > GUNNAR.
> > >
> > > AND HOPEFULLY YOU DON'T SEE ANY HUGE PROBLEMS WITH HIS MIXING WITH
> > > KELLY AND MEAGAN (NEGS)?? I'VE GOT TO SAY....THIS SITE HAS GIVEN ME
> >SO
> > > MUCH HOPE FOR OUR FUTURE. REGARDING MIXING, ETC. THANK GOD YOU
> >GUYS
> > > WERE THERE TO TELL ME ABOUT THE WELLNESS FOOD AND THE MEGA C. MY
> >VET
> > > WASN'T EXACTLY ENCOURAGING ABOUT HIM THROWING OFF THE VIRUS - AND
> >OTHER
> > > SITES ARE JUST SO "DOWN" ON MIXING.
> > >
> > > God bless you all - you are generous with your time and advice and
> >it's
> > > just so obvious how much you love your furry friends!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!
> >Maybe That'll Make The Difference....
> >
> >MaryChristine
> >
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> >MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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