Thanks for your comments Nina. It is appreciated. We were so relieved when our 
babies tested negative. Although now I wonder if Elsa who was put to sleep was 
actually positive.
We have tried to eliminate things that might make the scratchy ones less itchy. 
I use advantage on them and that seems to help quite a bit. Even though they 
have no fleas. The vets have suggested steroid shots but said they don't like 
to use them very often. We live on 3 acres in the country so anything could be 
causing it. There's alot of crops, trees, and pollen. 
It only started after we had them spayed/ neutered. It also seems to be a 
certain personality type (high strung). We don't have enough room to give them 
all their own space. We have one, Tigger, who we let go in the bathroom alot. 
He is a bully at times but once he gets some alone time he seems better. Sneezy 
and her daughter Patches we keep in our bedroom. They are both high strung. 
Sneezy used to be mean to some of the others and once we got her fixed the 
tables turned. Now they all hate her and she dislikes most of them. She growls 
when anyone even looks at her. She LOVES people though. We are thinking about 
building an outside enclosure for some for the summer. Just for short periods 
of time, so they can enjoy the outdoors. 
I don't worry much about the Humane Society, but I was somewhat apalled by 
their remarks. I have been around animals all my life and I have seen my fair 
share of suffering, but it would never harden my heart to the degree that I 
would be willing to look the other way when an animal needed help. I also get 
angry about it because I have asked for their help before with injured and/ or 
stary animals and every time they tell me to take them to the pound! I have 
actually got that response from 2 different county orgs. 
We live in the countryside and in a different county than the society that I 
had contacted. They assumed I was in the same area because the town near by is 
split down the center into to counties. 
As far as "hoarding goes" - well, I have 2 opinions on that. I realize how easy 
it could be to fall into such a thing, but I also think that instead of society 
critisizing these people for "trying their best" to help - they themselves 
should help more.

Debbie 








-----Original Message-----
>From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Mar 9, 2007 12:19 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: Questions and concerns - nervous hair pulling cats
>
>Hi Debbie,
>First let me say HURRAY! for the neg results on all your cats.  Your 
>story has now been added to so many others on the list in confirming 
>that mixing doesn't seem to be as big a concern as the veterinary 
>community would have us believe.  Such wonderful news for you and your 
>babies.
>
>Michelle, one of our list members has a cat that pulls and rends at her 
>fur over nervous tension.  She uses a benadryl compounded transdermal 
>(made into a cream to apply to the inside of the ear tip) that seems to 
>work wonders.  You could try using an otc antihistamine like benadryl or 
>Chlorpheniramine to see if it calms them enough to stop the behavior.   
>I use Chlortabs  periodically for my 20lb FIV boy, Starman, when he gets 
>to chewing on himself (2 to 4mg or .5 to a whole tab daily) and it seems 
>to keep whatever is making him itch under control.  I would strongly 
>suggest that you figure out a way to deal with whatever is making them 
>so ill at ease environmentally though.  Is there any way to give these 
>guys their own space?  I've used screen doors to separate guys that are 
>afraid of being in general population so they can slowly be 
>re-acclimated.  That's another long discussion though :-) .
>
>I read your email to your local Humane Society and their reply to you.  
>I can understand why you are feeling like they don't appreciate your 
>efforts and why you are upset at their not being more supportive.   My 
>first thought was that they were less nasty then I would have expected.  
>Just to play devil's advocate...  People at shelters and rescues deal 
>with such horror day in and day out, that they can become overwhelmed 
>and stuck in their ways of dealing with it.  When they hear of someone 
>with more than a few pets they probably worry that the situation will 
>escalate into a "hoarder" situation, or, because they don't know you, 
>think that somewhere down the line, they will have to step in and deal 
>with things should they become overwhelming to you.  You can see how 
>quickly that can happen when you have a big heart and not enough 
>resources to deal with all those in need.  I stay far away from any sort 
>of governmental organizations and NEVER give out my "number" to anyone 
>that might cause trouble for me and mine, (that includes all 
>strangers).  I think it's commendable that you wanted to let them know 
>that their views on felv are outdated, but sometimes it's next to 
>impossible to change a shelter's policies about giving these guys a 
>fighting chance.  You have to remember that they destroy so many 
>healthy, friendly, "adoptable" animals everyday.  Killing those that 
>have less of a chance at finding a forever home might be the lessor of 
>two evils in their minds, even if it is a subconscious rationalization.  
>If I were you and someone from the shelter was aware of my numbers, I'd 
>write back to them thanking them for their concern and let them know 
>that I fully intended to adopt out as many as I could and that I would 
>not be taking in anymore animals until my numbers were lessened, 
>(whether that was my intention or not).  You don't want those guys 
>sniffing around your house and you don't want to make enemies of them, 
>no matter what the local ordinances are, they can make trouble for you 
>if they are so inclined. 
>
>Finally, I want to thank you for all you do for those in need around 
>you.  I'm glad you found the list, not only for what we might be able to 
>give to you in support, but because it's always affirming to learn of 
>others "out there" that are as committed as we are to our fur babies.  
>Bless you and your entire family,
>Nina
>
>Debbie wrote:
>> As far as nervous chewing - our vet prescribed ovaban tablets. They 
>> seem to work but another vet says they can cause diabetes. What is 
>> this groups opinion on this? I recall years ago they also gave ovaban 
>> to me for male cat I had adopted. He was aggressive and they said it 
>> would calm him down. We have 3 cats out of the 14 that have skin 
>> problems. Sneezy pulls fur out on her hind quarters, Frodo has 
>> dandruff real bad, and then there is Cassie - she has licked the hair 
>> from her hind legs. All were fixed fairly young, except the Sneezy, 
>> the one who chews her hind quarters. She is also Cassie's mother. 
>> Frodo, the one with dandruff is very heavy and he seems to have 
>> allergies. Long haired and was bottle fed.
>> Any ideas?
>>
>
>


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