i think we too often impose OUR values onto them re: quality of life.... a
cat who feels safe in a smaller room, or even for awhile in a condo cage,
can clearly be LESS depressed or stressed than one who is hiding, terrified,
in 3 feet while it has 3,000-sq-ft of luxury surrounding it. of course a
condo cage, or a separate room may not be the IDEAL situation for a
housepet, but not all the cats who adopt us are gonna be classic
housecats--and their standards of what constitutes meeting their needs may
not be the same as our's is.

On 3/9/07, Del H. Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 *When I had a feral, Gigi Sue, she was in a kitty condo cage (2' x 3' x
4') and safe, learned to be happy, too.  I could not just reach in a pick
her up.  She had an igloo or pyramid bed she loved to hide in.  When she
needed to go to the vet I put a towel over the front of her igloo, lifted it
out with her inside and pushed it into a carrier big enough for the igloo.
At the vet she was very afraid but could be handled somewhat.  Later when
she was out of the cage, she lived under my bed (except at night when she
happily roamed the house without the humans in her way).  Again the igloo
was handy ... closed the bedroom door, shooshed her into the igloo and towel
over the front of it ... have to admit that often took an hour+ and she and
I were very wornout by then. An idea to work with though.*
**
*Del*

----- Original Message -----
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Friday, March 09, 2007 12:25 PM
*Subject:* Re: ovaban and other stuff....

 In a message dated 3/8/07 7:30:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

So no one here has heard much about the use of ovaban for itching and
calming them down?



Debbie

  I had to give a male cat ovaban for his urinating (outside of box,
ANYWHERE!!!).  But, the poor boy was traumatized, owner was fleeing town
after we had the "Three Mile Island" incident here [Sorry, my memory stinks,
but I KNOW it was early '80's, at least I "think"].  She was just going to
"dump" him in a KILL-SHELTER!!!!!   And, at the time, I did have one of his
sisters, so, regardless of that fact, he came home - to me........
 He DID calm down, used box ALL the time, BUT.........
 That was my Mr. Chow - [my very first encounter w/ Felv.]......  And, to
make matters worse, when he got older and sickly, he was diagnosed w/
cancer.......  Upon necropsy [something I detest!!!!], his lymphosarcoma was
due to being Felv+. (Keep in mind, this was prior to Snap or Elisa
testing......)
 I was devastated.......   I still "wonder" about just *how* they were
able to diagnose Felv. (????)
 And, he lived w/ me & my furbabies MANY years, and all his friends lived
to a ripe [healthy] age.....
 On the subject of amytryptilline, we used that at the shelter on many
stressed-out cats.  And, Blossom [See? I CAN remember some things!], used to
chew her fur terribly PRIOR!!!  Her nickname was "Bald  Blossom".  After
giving her the meds, she was "Beautiful Blossom"!  And, as far as I know,
which lately isn't too much, she is a healthy senior w/ lots of fur!!!!
 What dosage were you RX'ed?   Improper dosage can lead to many
"problems".....
 And, don't ask me what we had our Blossom on..... that memory is *
gone........*
 I know I am rambling & am even going to *switch* topic, but.....
 For vitamins, yes, PetTinic is very good, but we also used
Fela-Vite[sp?].  It's a *flavored *gel, I even "think" it's made by the
same mfg. as Laxatone.  (????)  Just don't quote me on that......
 And, since I'm changing topic, I also want to say that I am seriously
contemplating having my Buster put on amytryptilline......  He was
Cornelius's best friend (the rest of my gang are "snooty", AND THAT'S
PUTTING IT MILDLY). I rescued Buster shortly after Cornelius, and when Corny
passed, well, I was really concerned about Buster.  And, he is also a Maine
Coon, but now he is a DSH!!!  And, he is *perfectly healthy,* according to
my vet..... He's on a good [great] diet, no fleas, no allergies.......
What's a Mom to do????
 And, I DO have to go back to vet, as soon as I figure out a way to get
dear Charity into a carrier......
 For those of you not familiar w/ my Charity, she's the feral I've been
looking after [spayed, tested, vaccinated, plus food & shelter], who led me
to Black Bart, another REALLY, REALLY mean feral tom [in a BLIZZARD!!!] when
he was so ill....... They *both* put their trust in me that night......
Sadly, for Bart it was too late.  :(
 But, Charity "allowed" me to carry her back to house, and she's been
inside ever since....   In a large crate, but until I ever get her to vet, I
don't want to "expose" her to my other babies.... I even have Timmy, her
baby.....Who I had to bottle feed 'cause the j*rk that dumped them, put them
in a cardboard box!!!!  Of course, Mom got out, but I had her 2 teeny
babies.... The other baby, Thomas, was adopted, but Timmy won't have any of
that!!!! [He did get adopted while I was in hosp., thank heavens for
adoption contracts!!!  He made it purr-fectly clear that *this was his
home!!!!*]
 I'm rambling [again], back to Charity........We DID have a vet appt., *
BUT...*, upon "seeing" another human, she went ballistic!!!! (I can't
drive among *other *handicaps after MVA), so when my rescue buddy came to
get us, there was NO way to get her in carrier!  I know....my fault, should
have already had her in carrier.....  But, she has to be at least "semi"
manageable for vet appt.  And, she does not like *any *person but me!!!
And, at least prior to MVA I could draw blood.....  Now...FORGET IT!!!  My
room mate even asked *why* I brought the *EVIL CAT *in!!!!  (Her "house"
is in my laundry room and she freaks whenever he goes in there!!!)
 So just how can I expect a vet & staff to handle her???  With me, she's a
mush.... She "allows" me to stroke her, even PURRS!!!  And, sometimes when
she *pretends* to scratch me, she doesn't even have her claws out!!!  I
just don't know what to do...... Living in a crate is MUCH better than life
outside in this weather here.....
 Suggestions, anyone????
 Debbie & everyone, sorry I rambled so much.  Can you tell I don't get out
much?

 Patti & her gang



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