That's what I've heard re FIP - the genetic predisposition.

And re the stats on FELV, even if you find it, can you find what it's based on? It's easy to throw stats around without much basis. Course I guess I shouldn't complain too loudly, I'd really rather they didn't do a research study on FELV cats by intentionally infecting a bunch of cats with FELV and then killing them... :(

Gloria


On Jun 28, 2007, at 6:40 PM, MaryChristine wrote:

the most important info, i believe, in the last few years, is the research showing a genetic predisposition for the mutation from the usually benign corona virus to the horrible FIP. when i was still involved with VIN (the parent of www.veterinarypartner.com that belinda references), this relationship was just starting to come out, through the Feline Genome Project results from UC Davis and other participants. the winn feline foundation (whose link i don't happen to have right at hand but a search will pull it up, has current position papers on FIV, FeLV and FIP. personally, i disagree with their overly pessimistic stats on both FIV and FeLV, but that's me.)

as belinda says, the information is out there and we have a responsibility to make sure that what we don't add to the confusion by repeating stuff that is NOT accurate.

(and yes, i STILL haven't found where, exactly, the oft-quoted figure that "70% of healthy adult cats can throw off the FeLV virus." but i'm still looking.)



On 6/28/07, Belinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Here are some sites with info about FIP. Just because the same misinformation keeps getting repeated isn't going to make it true. To many cats pay with their lives when incorrect information is tossed about. To say a cat is suspected to have FIP is one thing, to say is is confirmed without the proper verification procedures being followed is in my opinion criminal. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------

This is from the VeterinaryPartner.com website written and maintained by vets, it is from 2002 so even this is probably no the most accurate info:

http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&A=232

FIP effusion fluid is thick, tenacious, straw-colored to deep golden, and clear to slightly cloudy.
From another Vet Website, again written in 2002:

http://www.vetinfo.com/cencyclopedia/cefip.html
When cats have the "effusive" form of FIP in which abdominal fluid accumulation occurs, the thick, straw colored fluid has characteristics that strongly suggest FIP. It is possible to run a more specialized lab test, a polymerase chain reaction test for FIP, on this fluid. This type of testing is more accurate than FIP antibody testing but still is not definitive. Blood tests to compare the various protein levels in the blood can be very suggestive of FIP infection, as well. High immunglobulin levels are very suggestive of FIP in the presence of clinical signs. Despite all of this, there is no clear-cut way to make a sure diagnosis of FIP prior to death.
This person does Dr Addie's website and probably has some of the most current and factual info on FIP:

http://www.orionfoundation.com/Information.htm
3) Verify FIP through histopathology. Simply necropsy is not enough. Microscopic evaluation of tissue from biopsy or necropsy by a trained pathologist is considered the only diagnostic proof of FIP. Where available request immunoperoxidase examination of tissue to verify presence of Corona virus in suspect tissue.
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