merial vaccines are more pricey, but are considered by many vets to be of
the highest quality.....



On 6/29/07, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 If I am not wrong, every brand should have modified or killed version --
but am not 100% sure.

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2007 10:44 AM
*Subject:* Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge

I am not sure if it is killed or not, Hideyo.  I'm trying to find out, but
haven't found anything so far.  I know my vet prefers them to Ft Dodge....

Most rescuers use Ft Dodge, they are cheaper...


On 6/29/07, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Meiral is supposed to be good - do they use killed vaccine?  I
> here that we should always use Killed version especially for Felk to be
> safe.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>  *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2007 10:27 AM
> *Subject:* Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge
>
>
> If it is that new he is not using it.  He uses Meiral.  Also the free
> spay/neuter clinic, where I get my rescue kitties inoculated, uses Meiral.
>
> I used to use Dr Samon for injections for all the kittes..but then he
> doubled his prices...ouch ouch.
>
>
> On 6/29/07, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  Sure -- I don't know if it's commercially available right now,, as
> > the pharmaceutical company came over to my vet office to do some test/sample
> > on clinic kitties.. I will get the names for you, though.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2007 10:17 AM
> > *Subject:* Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge
> >
> >
> > Can you get it for me just in case my vet does not know....he keeps up
> > on things..occasionally I can surprise him, like when I found the
> > flourescine dye protocol for telling which kitty is peeing outside the
> > box...but when I asked him about interferon for Suzie he said he already had
> > her on the human..(I know the feline is better but he had her on the human
> > without even being asked).
> >
> > On 6/29/07, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >  by the way, did you know there is a now new type of felk vaccine,
> > > much safer than traditional ones -- I will get the name if you guys are 
not
> > > already aware of this.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > *From:* MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2007 10:08 AM
> > > *Subject:* Re: FIP Facts - WAS - Suzie crossed the bridge
> > >
> > >
> > > right, this 2/3 figure seems to be what's being used most often.
> > > winn feline foundation has new position papers out on FIV/FeLV/FIP, and
> > > that's what on theirs. http://www.winnfelinehealth.org
> > >
> > > HOWEVER, i know that i saw that 70% figure in a number of places,
> > > and it annoys me that i can't find it now.
> > >
> > > re: vaccinated cats' immunity, as far as anyone i've heard of can
> > > tell, there are NO, zip, zilch, nada, eppes documented cases of a 
vaccinated
> > > TRUE NEGATIVE (ie, retested after the 120 days necessary) who has ever
> > > turned positive from living with a true, retested positive. we all know of
> > > cases where supposedly negative cats have turned up positive later, but in
> > > none of those cases was the negative result ever verified. i know that in
> > > two households, mine and at the sanctuary, with all cats supposedly
> > > negative, we've found out later that SOMEONE was actually positive, when
> > > cats got sick.
> > >
> > > also according to the winn feline foundation, the new FeLV vaccines
> > > are about 95% effective. (like gloria, i really don't like to think about
> > > where they are coming up with the statistics, and what they're doing to 
our
> > > cats to do so.) however, anyone with experience with FeLVs in large 
numbers
> > > has questioned the "85% efficacy rate" of the vaccine for a long time, in
> > > light of the high percentage of UNVACCINATED cats who throw off the virus,
> > > and the fact that vaccinated cats living with positives stay negative.
> > >
> > > i've questioned whether or not that 85% if just among kittens, frail
> > > elders, and other compromised populations....
> > >
> > > thanks for the links, hideyo!
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!
> > > Maybe That'll Make The Difference....
> > >
> > > MaryChristine
> > >
> > > AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
> > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > ICQ: 289856892
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> >
> > http://www.rescuties.org
> >
> > Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> >
> > http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
> >
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> >
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> >
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>
>
> --
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
>
> http://www.rescuties.org
>
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
>
> http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
>
> Please help Caroline!
>
> http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline
>
> I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
>
> Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the
> Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
>
>


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Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Please help Caroline!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline

I GoodSearch for Rescuties.

Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the
Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!




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Maybe That'll Make The Difference....

MaryChristine

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