Kelley,
   
  I am so sorry this is happening.  My heart goes out to you.  I don't  have 
any suggestions, but I will pray that you can figure out why this is happening.
   
  Gina

Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    Hideyo,
   
  They eat Diamond Naturals Indoor Cat, which is not the best, but contains no 
wheat gluten.  It isn't the worst either.
   
  They also eat Evo canned when I can afford it, which isn't always.
   
  I don't think it is the food, or anything like that..it is only affecting 
cats 5-12 yo.
   
  The kittens are ok.

 
  On 6/27/07, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:         How about the 
food?  What do the eat? Was any of their food related to recall food?
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kelley Saveika 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
    Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:54 PM
  Subject: Re: Something is killing my cats, please help me
  
 
  I use bleach. I have to to kill the virus such as URI that comes from the 
sheltr.  I use bleach in the litterboxes to kill the giardia, coccidia.  I use 
bleach in my sheets so i don't hav eto sleep on peed on sheets. 
   
  I try to use simple green when I think it will work.  
   
  The thing that mystifies me is that it is affecting a 10,12, and 2 5  year 
old cats...yet the 3 weeks olds are just fine *knock wood*.  3 of them were 
owner surrenders and one was obviously an owned cat -spayed and very friendly.  
A great staff favaprote at T:AC 
   
  I thik they are distessed and it is destroyuing their immune system.

 
  On 6/27/07, Marylyn < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:       No decks or fences?  
Here they tried to use treated wood (the new version) in the walls where it 
touched the concrete.  
   
  Any insecticides?  Termite/roach/ants stuff?  Any cleaning solutions?  
Bleaches?  
   
  I'm not picking at you.  Please don't think that.  I know of other cases 
where things we think nothing of cause problems for our friends and many times 
we never find out what.  Consider that there appears to be an increase in 
cancers among people that some are blaming on the numerous chemicals now in our 
food, water, homes.   
   
  If you have a good alternative vet in your area, try him/her.  The ones I 
know can sense the problems when regular vets, who are really attuned to 
science and the scientific method, just can't.  Mine have convinced me that 
even the little blue crystals in some litter is not good for cats.  They have 
the ability to see as a cat.  It is much like baby-proofing a house.  You get 6 
inches from everything with your nose, eyes, mouth etc.   
   
  You mentioned carpet.  Consider what you use to clean it and whether it is 
outgassing.  I don't have any here but picked up a piece to make Dixie a 
scratching post (very good carpet remnant).  It has been on the porch rail for 
3 months outgassing.  Dixie won't have anything to do with it and it will never 
make it into the house again.  I am just trying to see how long it takes the 
odor to go away.   Again, I am not picking at you.  This awful set of events 
may be something entirely within the cars.  I had 2 unrelated female cats 
several months apart die.  I trapped them and had them spayed at different 
local vets.  One had every test done before she was spayed.  The other had just 
the basics done.  Both appeared extremely healthy.  Both were fine the night 
before they died but both died the third day.  I was so totally broken up that 
I asked my personal vet (120 miles away) what was going on.  Without an autopsy 
(animal version) no one could be sure but he couldn't come
 up with anything.  One could easily have had undetected heart problems but 
both of them???????????  All of this is to say that sometimes things just 
happen no matter how careful we are and, again, please don't think I am picking 
at you............just throwing out ideas/feelings in the hope that something 
might ring true with you.  You have been thru so much.  Maybe an angel will sit 
on your shoulder and whisper an answer.  That is my prayer for you. 
   
   
   
   
   
                                                   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
                                                 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
                                                 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
                                                                  St. Francis
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kelley Saveika 
    To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 6:45 PM
  Subject: Re: Something is killing my cats, please help me
  
 
I don't have any wood.  I have concrete subfloor, carpet over some of it, vinyl 
tile over other parts of it, it is all by itself in som eplaces.  Where the ac 
flooded and we had to rip up the tile...but that was 3 years ago... 

  On 6/27/07, Marylyn < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:       They did until a 
couple of years ago and it is still available for some uses.  Two/three years 
ago, after it had been banned for use in houses, a dealer for BK Cypress Log 
Homes quoted me a package that contained arsenic treated lumber and, when I 
questioned him, sent me an awful email regarding the safety of this wood and 
how no person would eat it.  Tennessee Log Homes had a dealer who was very 
unhappy when I rejected some of his arguments re arsenic treated wood.  (There 
is a lot more to that story.......if you ever consider using them email me 
personally and you won't consider it for long).   Arsenic leaches into the soil 
and poisons the plants, water etc.  It is also used in some fencing and 
creosote is used in RR ties that are used for landscape timbers.   Power poles 
and telephone poles as well as fence posts more than a couple of years old are 
probably treated.  They certainly weren't removed.   There
 are questions about the current "accepted" treated woods.  Please remember how 
long the arsenic treated was considered safe.    Obviously I am a tree-hugger 
but please, with that many illnesses, please have it checked. 
   
   
   
   
   
   
                                                   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
                                                 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
                                                 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
                                                                  St. Francis
      ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Leslie Lawther 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 6:26 PM
  Subject: Re: Something is killing my cats, please help me
  
 
Do they use arsenic in pressure treated lumber still today?!?

  On 6/27/07, Marylyn < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:       Check for arsenic as 
in treated lumber.......decks, play areas etc.  Even wood used in a basement.   
   
   
   
   
   
   
                                                   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
                                                 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
                                                 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
                                                                  St. Francis
      ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kelley Saveika 
  To: felvtalk 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 6:18 PM
  Subject: Something is killing my cats, please help me
  
 
  This is the toll so far from this year, not including kittens.
   
  Joey - 10 - died in late April.  Being treated for AIHA.
   
  Lucky Lady - 12 - got sick, was adopted by my vet, apparently recovered but 
is now dying, they think cancer.
   
  Caroline - ran up a bill in excess of $1,000.  No one knows what was or is 
wrong.  Possible FIP (but she's getting better), brain cancer, toxo.
   
  Suzie - I don't even want to see the bill and don't know how I am going to 
pay it.  Possible FIP, toxo.
   
  They are all 5 and up.  All presented with massive dehydration (skin 
tenting), anorexia, massiive weight loss.
   
  Some w/neuro symptoms..bloodwork varying...
   
  All tested neg/neg for FELV.
   
  Tehy are down to looking in my house for asbestos and lead....someone please 
help me...I don't know what is killing my cats....

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