YES. My friend's' Lucie was in liver failure because she was not eating her 
normal amount of food. Her blood count numbers were off the charts. The 
internal med doc did ultrasound to make sure it wasn't cancer and placed an E 
tube. They kept her (24/7 clinic) for a few days to get her started. There were 
meds ~ prednisone and anti nausea. Mike had to feed her 4 times a day. She 
thrives! She was REALLY bad when Mike took her in. I went with him. I did not 
think she would or could live. E tubes are the BEST! Hepatic lipidosis is 
reversible and Diane is right...feed feed feed and quick quick quick!!
good luck.

ps I would take kitty to vet during day and at home at night. I agree. At vet 
they are alone from 5PM-7:30AM. A ridiculously and perilously long time. I 
would also have them place the E tube immediately.
Prayers, Energy and Thoughts for the kitty (name?)
Laurie
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rosenfeldt, Diane 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:01 PM
  Subject: RE: Hobbs, more info--Liver


  If the bilirubin is high, could this be fatty liver disease (hepatic 
lipidosis)?  I've been through this with my Luc and it is very reversible with 
proper treatment.  The treatment is simple -- feed, feed, feed, and quick, 
quick, quick!  The problem is that the cat may not feel like eating, in which 
case force-feeding or tube-feeding is the way to go.  With Luc, force-feeding 
was so stressful that we elected to have an esophageal tube inserted through 
his neck.  We thinned out and blended some A/D from the vet and syringed it 
through a little funnel into the tube.  Within a week, he started to feel 
better and lapped it up on his own, and turned right around.  We had to wait a 
while to have the tube removed -- the rough edges of the hole needed to heal 
over before they could be stitched shut.  

  We too had the test to the tune of several hundred dollars, and then Luc 
didn't react well to the anesthetic and they kept him overnight for several 
more hundred, so I feel your pain on having to consider money.  The tube 
insertion itself was only a couple hundred dollars (although the vet may have 
taken pity on us after the original $1200 we'd spent on tests and the overnight 
stay).  Thankfully, my mother had left a small amount of money and I know she 
would have been happy to know it went to save my heart-kitty's life.

  I hope things turn out okay for Hobbs!  Hugs to him and his hoomins.

  Diane R.



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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heather Wienker
  Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:41 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: Hobbs, more info--Liver


  Hi everyone,

  I thank you all so much for your caring & insightful replies!

  It appears the problem is Hobbs' liver, his bilirubin is very high.   They 
are suggesting a regimen of meds including Denocil, baytril, amox., Cartinine & 
Arginine, and fluids.   BW suggested an infection which may be the reason for 
the antibiotics.

  They also suggested doing X-ray/ultrasound/fine needle aspirate & cytology 
for the liver.   I asked if we can start the meds and see how he responds.   If 
anyone has comments on this it is appreciated.   My rescue vet bills were 
$1,100 last week and I hate considering money, but the vet did say we could 
proceed that way...I also thought sedating for the aspirate might not be good 
if he's so weak?

  What we are trying to figure out now is if it's best to hospitalize him for 3 
days for fluids as suggested, or, for my friend to take him home where she can 
watch over him more during the night (my vet's does not have staff there 
overnight).   She can't do fluids so would have to bring him back each day for 
fluids if so.   I think that would be stressful, but it might be best for him 
to be at home....especially if he took a turn for the worse, I don't think 
she'd like his last moments to be in the hospital if possible.   I am always 
boarding cats so they can get proper care but in this case am not sure which is 
best, kind of a toss up.

  Karen, if you have suggestions now that we know that the liver seems to be 
the issue, it's appreciated or I can give you a call.   A good rescue friend 
suggested SamE, but I think the Denocil is like an RX version that might have 
some further benefits if I'm understanding correctly.

  Thank you all....I haven't been active in the group but always scan the 
messages and pray for all of our kitties.

  Blessings to you all--and especially to your furry ones,

  Heather

   
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