Beth and Natalie

Thanks for the ideas.  I had heard of Chipin but not the Animal Wish
List. Do I just do a search on Animal Wish List to find it?

I didn't want to "beg", if feels weird but if these kids need it I
guess I can learn.  My vet is helping me as much as she can but is a
small town vet with no receptionist, no nothing.  Her office is in an
old house in town, one exam room and a countertop with file cabinets
behind it for paperwork.  Surgery is done in a small room in the
basement with her mom helping to monitor heart/breathing, etc.  Sounds
hookie but she does good work.  And she cares.  Asking the $ be sent
directly to her is perfect!  I may give it a shot.

Kat

On 7/10/11, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote:
> Use www.chipin.com - very easy and people do contribute to just about
> anything!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:19 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG
>
> Try putting a plea for vet help on Animal Wish List. It's a Yahoo Group.
> Have funds go directly to the vet. Most vets will work with u on payments.
>
> katskat1 <katsk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Thanks to all I have decided if I can find the $ I am going to take
>>Luke to the vet and have some/all of her rotten teeth removed.  She is
>>obviously in discomfort and her breath has gotten progressively worse.
>> She is ratty looking and apparently has been sickly for a long time
>>before I started feeding her as a stray but she still wants to live.
>>
>>I was very apprehensive about doing this to a cat that stays outside -
>>has to - won't come in, fights to get back out and my inside cats are
>>ALL negatives.  But she sticks around and I don't have many options.
>>
>>Now, if only I could successfully medicate her.  She will not eat
>>anything, kitten milk replacement, dry/wet food, treats, NOTHING with
>>any med of any kind.  Trying to syringe her is like fighting a wind
>>storm with lots of claws and then we are both so stressed we are
>>breathing hard.  Not good for her.  Or me.  So I am trying to give her
>>quality of whatever life she has........
>>
>>Hopefully yanking rotten, loose teeth will help.
>>
>>kat
>>
>>On 7/8/11, MaiMaiPG <maima...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> His tongue does not hang out the side of his mouth nor does he look
>>> like he is panting....and he does look adorable.  Sorry to give any
>>> other impression.
>>> On Jul 8, 2011, at 1:53 AM, Natalie wrote:
>>>
>>>> The hanging out tongue must be something other than missing teeth.
>>>> We have
>>>> quite a few cats with no teeth, and their tongues don't hang out the
>>>> side of
>>>> their mouths, if anything, the tips of the tongue might stick out in
>>>> front -
>>>> and looks adorable.  We have some real oldtimers here - started out
>>>> feral
>>>> and are mushes now.....
>>>> Life with bad teeth must be absolutely horrible and painful  I am
>>>> always
>>>> surprised how toothless cats just love dry food!
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>>>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 6:31 PM
>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG
>>>>
>>>> Pretty Boy, a feral who hangs around and who is very loved, was live
>>>> trapped for neutering.  The vet called me after they put him
>>>> under...he had shuttered in pain when they put a tube in his mouth.
>>>> She checked his teeth and they were totally awful.  Most of them were
>>>> pulled.  The only side effect is that his tongue hangs out a lot of
>>>> the time...no teeth to help him keep it in...or maybe he is expressing
>>>> his opinion.  He eats both canned and dry food with the rest of the
>>>> clan and is so handsome.  He is probably 13-14 years old (per vet) and
>>>> is a total doll. Like the rest of the clan, he is not touchable most
>>>> of the time.  He fusses and fumes and catches ground squirrels and
>>>> others who are stupid enough to come into an area guarded by numerous
>>>> cats.  Removing his teeth has definitely improved the quality if not
>>>> quantity of his life.   As far as I know, none of the clan is FeLV+.
>>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, in cats (and in humans) the constant infections and abscesses
>>>>> in a bad
>>>>> mouth of teeth have all sorts of dire consequences in the rest of
>>>>> the body's
>>>>> systems. I have never heard anyone who regretted having some or all
>>>>> of their
>>>>> babies' teeth pulled in the interests of clearing up stomatitis, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Diane R.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>>>>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:00 AM
>>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, we have had 3 cases (2 rescues of mine, one a friend's so I
>>>>> don't know
>>>>> his testing status, he could be FIV+ though, he was a big male
>>>>> brought in
>>>>> from the streets) of full mouth extractions that resulted in a very
>>>>> sick
>>>>> kitty soon becoming a 'brand new cat".  One is a year out from the
>>>>> extraction, the other is 2 years out, both are doing so well!   Both
>>>>> of
>>>>> those guys were negative.  My friend's kitty is doing wonderfully,
>>>>> too, and
>>>>> his full mouth extraction was done by our humane society low-cost
>>>>> clinic for
>>>>> a fraction of what my guys were done for--most low cost clinics
>>>>> probably
>>>>> can't do that, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> All 3 of these guys now also eat dry food, by their own liking, I
>>>>> couldn't
>>>>> believe it.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Your cats had stomatitis?  And it helped having all teeth removed?
>>>>>> The problem with doing this to a cat with immunodeficiencies is
>>>>>> (ours
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> FIV+, which is better than FeLV+) obviously slightly more risky!  It
>>>>>> FIV+does
>>>>>> sound rather drastic, doesn't it?
>>>>>> We have several old cats without teeth, and they look like they're
>>>>>> chomping a way at dry food...they just swallow it and love it more
>>>>>> than canned food at times.
>>>>>> Natalie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>>>>>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:18 AM
>>>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] DMG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope the DMG proves to be helpful, but just thought I'd mention
>>>>>> the 3
>>>>>> we've had who had full mouth extractions were like new cats
>>>>>> afterwards, and have done wonderfully ever since.  They were not
>>>>>> FELV
>>>>>> cats, though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has any vet ever suggested using DMG (N, N-DIMETHYLGLYCINE)for
>>>>>>> FeLV+
>>>>>> cats?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I AM USING IT ON A FIV+ CAT THAT HAS PAINFUL STOMATITIS IN THE
>>>>>>> MOUTH, TO THE POINT WHERE HE COULDN'T EAT; FIV/FeLV+ cats often get
>>>>>>> that condition, and unfortunately, the only suggested and
>>>>>>> supposedly
>>>>>>> appropriate thing is to have their teeth pulled by a specialist,
>>>>>>> with special emphasis on
>>>>>> cleaning
>>>>>>> out the areas extremely well.  My vet says that he doesn't like
>>>>>>> doing it because often it doesn't help at all, so we are trying
>>>>>>> DMG.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am using the liquid form, but it apparently also comes in
>>>>>>> different forms.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It has many clinical uses and a variety of applications:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=N%2C+N-
>>>>>>> DIMETHYLGLYCIN
>>>>>>> E
>>>>>>>
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