Big markup on vaccines, but they have to make a living too! I don't know of any 
vets out here that are rolling in cash, quite a few of them are concerned about 
being fair to farmers, etc. But, back to the rabies vaccine, a lot of cities 
dictate how often a rabies vaccine has to be given, which to me, is ridiculous. 
Where I'm from, a three year vaccine is only recognized for 2 years. And i'm 
sure that all of you know, the average Joe thinks that is A OK!   Same with 
panleukopenia vaccine. It lasts forever.

Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. 

On Nov 17, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Maureen Olvey <molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I kind of have to vaccinate.  I brought in a FeLV positive kitten and since I 
> doubt I will be able to adopt her out I need to vaccinate my others because 
> I'm not planning on keeping them separated forever.  Maybe I should but I 
> don't have the set up for that.  I hate over - vaccinating too but I think I 
> have to in this case.  Unless there's someone like Beth that lives in the 
> Atlanta area that wants to take her and try to adopt her out  ;-)    She is a 
> beautiful 12 week old blue point siamese kitten.  Appears healthy as a horse. 
>  I had the ELISA done twice (once sent to the lab) so I know she's positive.  
> I hope she can extinguish the virus but since she's a kitten I'm a little 
> worried.  I"m going to follow up with an IFA to see if the virus has 
> progressed into her white blood cells so that will tell me if she has a 
> chance of extinguishing the virus.  Back to the point, anyone wants a 12 week 
> old blue point siamese kitten let me know.
>  
> Not to scare you but as a side note - testing doesn't always prevent you from 
> bringing in a positive kitty.  I tested all  my cats and kittens and they 
> always came up negative yet I had one die from FeLV when she was two years 
> old.  No other kitties in my house got it from her, even my FIV kitty.  The 
> vet had some thoughts of how that happened but anyway if you test a kitten 
> and she shows up negative it may be that the virus hasn't had time to show on 
> the snap test.  Not a comforting thought I know.  
>  
> Still, I wouldn't vaccinate my cats if I hadn't brought in this FeLV kitten 
> in because like most everyone I hate over-vaccinating.  I just knew her first 
> snap test was a false positive so I wanted to give her a shot.  But now that 
> she's been here two weeks and is even more healthy I just can't put her down. 
>  I'm going to try to adopt her out even though I doubt I'll be successful.  
> But in the meantime she needs to get out of that one room and play.
>  
> Another interesting fact - a couple years ago I read there was a study done 
> on the rabies vaccine and they found that kittens vaccinated at 12 or 16 
> weeks old still had immunity 4 years later.  And that was just the normal one 
> year rabies vaccine.  Crazy huh?  I think the American Association of 
> Veterinarians something or another sets the vaccination protocols but they're 
> all vets so of course they're going to recommend vaccinating as much as 
> possible.
>  
> 
> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
>  
> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:38:18 -0800
> From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question
> 
> I would be very, very cautious about vaccinating a cat agaimst FeLv.  Several 
> people I know had the miserable experience of their cat contracting leukemia 
> after being vaccinated. I wouldn't swear that the vaccine was the source of 
> the infection but these cats were not ever outside the house.  They were not 
> exposed to any other cats.  They may have had the disorder lurking in their 
> bone marrow and the vaccine sensitized them to getting the illness or they 
> may have gotten it from the vaccine.  In addition, there's the danger of 
> vaccine-site sarcoma. I have had cats living with me for most of my life. 
> Most of them survive well into what is considered old age for cats - 16 to 20 
> years.  Simply testing cats before adding them to my community assures that 
> they will not be exposed to FeLv. I don't vaccinate, except when I send cats 
> to adoption. FVRCP is required for that.  Of course, the rabies vaccine is 
> required by law in most States but other than that, I feel that veterinarians 
> push vaccines for cats for all the wrong reasons.
>  
> Lee
> 
> From: Natalie <at...@optonline.net>
> To: felvt...@felineleukemia.orgi
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question
> 
> Why do you feel that your cats need to be vaccinated at all?  Are they at 
> risk of exposure? Vaccinate your cats ONLY according to their lifestyles!  
> Remember, even the protocol for regular FVRCP is now every three years…..
> Fort Dodge doesn’t have a stellar reputation…that’s all I know.
>  
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 1:37 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question
>  
> I've got to have a couple of my cats vaccinated against FeLV.  I've heard you 
> guys talk about the different makers of the vaccinations but I can't remember 
> what the best ones were.  Seems like I remember hearing about Fort Dodge and 
> some others but if anyone has had problems with a certain type of vaccination 
> by a certain maker please let me know.
> 
> I don't think I'm going to do the Vet Jet so I just wanted to know about the 
> regular FeLV vaccinations.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Maureen
> 
> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
> 
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