Does this happen with all species? I think the best thing to do is leave animals alone, too, but when feral cats bother people to the point where they are going to kill them, it's probably better to try to get numbers down. I prefer the methods some used with wolves, doing tubal ligations/vasectomies instead of messing with their hormones by taking out the sex organs. That said, we're real good at exterminating species, so I hope that doesn't happen with companion animals.
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:09 PM, GRAS <g...@optonline.net> wrote: > *It’s really interesting because when, and that’s rarely, that they reach > a biological carrying capacity (or in a severe winter and no food), sperm > counts go down and females, in real dire situations, will actually absorb > their fetuses. Also, people mistake deer as starving in the winter because > they may seem thin, ribs showing, it’s only that thyroxin (a calcium-rich > hormone) regulates their metabolisms in cold weather….even iof a lot of > food were available, they might not be able to absorb all the nutrition.* > > *The best thing is to leave them alone – thousands of years, and they > have been able to regulate themselves until commercial hunting almost wiped > them out at the end of the last century, and states had to start managing > them to bring back the herds – then they found out what a big business it > can be (hunting licenses, P-R Act, etc)- now they manage for MSY.* > > ** ** > > *From:* Felvtalk > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>] > *On Behalf Of *Kathryn Hargreaves > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:12 PM > > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting**** > > ** ** > > Yes, I've heard from wildlife experts that the population of all species > will level off at the carrying capacity (food, shelter) of the habitat, > despite predation (of any sort). This is why if you want to reduce a > species' population, you have to sterilize and return, so the sterilized > ones take up some of that capacity.**** > > ** ** > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote:**** > > *No, they wouldn’t reproduce the same way, that’s the whole point! > According to research on reproduction, hunted herds twin only 14%, while > hunted herds twin or even triple at 38%. It’s just nature’s way! In fact, > predators are better hunters because they go for the sick and old animals, > while hunters avoid them, thereby actually degrading the gene pool – > healthier animals are not the result of hunting – that’s done at deer farms > by mating the best with the best specimen, producing fantastic trophy > animals.***** > > *No, I do not eat any meat.***** > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > Of *Joslin Potter > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 02, 2012 2:44 PM**** > > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting**** > > I agree with you, but what would happen if we didn't have a hunting > season, do you think they would not still reproduce like they do now? To > each their own, again, I'm just thankful for the life of a deer, and the > people who do purchase linceses as this money is put back into the wild > life. The funding from licenses and tags is used to insure a healthy > population of wildlife in the states, including the DNR to enforce the > rules... I take it you don't eat meat Natalie?**** > > *It may provide your family with meat, BUT, technically, hunting doesn’t > really lower deer populations except in the immediate aftermath of a cull. > Next year, there will be the same number of deer, if not more, because > hunting encourages and spurs reproduction through compensatory rebound and > because states manage deer for MSY (maximum sustained yield). I’m sure > that you will notice that the population doesn’t really go down in the long > run. I have made it my business to learn as much as I can about deer > biology/reproduction. Natalie***** > > *From:* Felvtalk > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>] > *On Behalf Of *Joslin Potter > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:48 AM > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting**** > > I'm thankful for deer season, it provides my family with meat, as well as > keeping population under control. -Joslin**** > > > > **** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -- ---------------------------- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. <http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm> If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/<http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/> Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537
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