Hi Edna,

No, I am in MA. 
thank you,

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On Oct 16, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Edna Taylor <taylore...@msn.com> wrote:

> Alev, are you in Houston, TX.  What shelter was this?
>  
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:17:14 -0700
> From: alev_dur...@yahoo.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] "No-kill" animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat
> 
> Thank you Kathryn,
> 
> I signed the Houston petition already...I hope you guys get enough people on 
> time. I checked the list, it was not in it before. I will check the new one 
> too. I am thinking to send them an email about what I think of them and send 
> a FB messages to people around town to warn that this shelter is not 
> "no-kill" I don't know what else I can do?
> 
> Thank you so much to you all for all you support and info, really, sharing 
> this with you made me cry more but better than holding in...
>  
> 
> Alev 
> From: Kathryn Hargreaves <khargrea...@gmail.com>
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 1:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] "No-kill" animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat
> 
> Yes, and some have even gone so far as to define ``adoptable'' as those for 
> which they have cages!  Outta space, outta luck.
> 
> 
> As Christine probably knows, there are over 200 cities/towns that are now No 
> Kill.  As for No Kill places being hard to find, at least someone is looking 
> for them.   In fact, I just realized that my link to the No Kill communities 
> list is outdated and should be replaced with this, which is the above 
> someone's blog:
> 
> Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
> http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ (see the 
> right sidebar)
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Christiane Biagi <ti...@mindspring.com> 
> wrote:
> The caveat to the “no kill” (as defined in the Asilomar Accords) is that all 
> it means is they will not kill adoptable animals.  Unfortunately, its up to 
> the individual shelter/rescue to define what they consider “adoptable”.  All 
> too often, facilities that advertise themselves as “no kill” really mean that 
> they will kill all ill, senior, problem behavior, etc. animals but never kill 
> a healthy easily adoptable animals.  These kinds of facilities never ever 
> publish their "euthanasia matrix” which is where they define their policy on 
> who they will kill.  True no kills (as we think it means & as defined by 
> Nathan Winograd) are tough to find.  I volunteer for one such shelter in New 
> Orleans (ARNO) & the handful of animals they’ve put down have been terminally 
> ill animals who were either comatose or in intractable pain.  They never put 
> down for fiv or felv! 
>  
> The shelter you cited clearly is a kill shelter & why they wouldn’t have 
> alerted you to the cat’s test results & given you some time demonstrates an 
> attitude that is unfortunately all too common.  I’m so sorry this happened to 
> you but please know that River had love from you—something she likely hadn’t 
> had in a very long time.
>  
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Alev 
> Durmus
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:15 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] "No-kill" animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat
>  
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> Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal!
> 
> If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their 
> life.  Contact your local pound for information. 
> 
> If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to 
> free up cage space.
> 
> 
> Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by 
> implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/
> 
> Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
> http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/
> 
> Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org
> 
> More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/
> 
> More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially 
> http://vimeo.com/48445902
> 
> 
> 
> Local feral cat crisis?   See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: 
> http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537
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