Definitely agree with you Margo. Even for humans. My mom used to toss all sorts
of herbal pills and capsules at me to improve anything and everything. It
improved mostly nothing. However, I do use echinacea on occasion when I think I
have been exposed to the flu or some other icky virus. However, there is a
holistic homeopathic/allopathic veterinarian in my area who has at times
treated a cat or two of mine with herbal medications, but under close
supervision and with the warning that if I see anything that worries me to
phone him right away. This is OK because he uses herbs just like he would use
any other medication. Incidentally I would not trust Dr. Becker to treat a
cockroach. Snake oil anyone?
>________________________________
> From: Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net>
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 6:22 AM
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
>
>
>
> I avoid any and all essential oils for cats. Dogs and humans can
>metabolize them, cats can't. They lack a liver enzyme needed to process the
>oils. I get very annoyed seeing substances containing essential oils touted as
>"safe" for cats because they're "natural".
>
> Cinnamon oil is particularly high in phenols, which are considered
>harmful to cats.
>
>http://essentialoilworld.com/essentialoilreviews/pet-health/essential-oil-safety-with-cats
>
> This is from a site that SELLS essential oils, but states some are
>not safe for cats.
>
> This is my favorite site addressing the use of essential oils around
>cats, and again, they sell them...
>
>http://www.thelavendercat.com/
>
> I use Advantage on my non-FeLV cats and their dogfriends, and it
>seems to keep the flea population under control on everyone.
>
> It's up to each catslave what they choose to control those annoying
>little bloodsuckers, but just thought I'd give another point of view. Natural
>does not mean safe.
>
>Margo
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: dlg...@windstream.net
>>Sent: Aug 28, 2013 11:35 PM
>>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
>>
>>I don't like the commercial flea drops at all. My cats have all had a
>>reaction to them. I found an herbal one on Dr. Becker's site (Mercola site).
>> It has cinnamon and other "natural" ingredients. The cats were not too
>>happy with it at first, I think mostly because the cinnamon smell is pretty
>>strong when it first goes on, but at least they have not had any adverse
>>reactions to it. This includes my remaining FELV, Annie.
>>
>>
>>---- trustinhi...@charter.net wrote:
>>> I just wanted to share that I put Advantage-multi drops on my felv+ cat,
>>Pookie, in june and a week later there appear 1 then 2 puffy lumps on
>>his back between his spine. They disappeared after a few weeks after
>>intense intervention with syringe feeding of vitamins and nutrients. He
>>then went into a period of running a fever and not eating or drinking.
>>He was placed on Baytril for two weeks. The fever left and he started to
>>eat and drink, but then developed a mouth sore. So he wasn't eating or
>>drinking again. I have learned to be very sure when pilling that the
>>pill actually goes down. I suspect one was lodged under his tongue and
>>may have caused the mouth sore. I finally took him to a holistic vet and
>>she has been giving him acupuncture. Within 24 hours he was eating and
>>drinking again. She said the toughest needle to get in was in his nose
>>(controls appetite), but he went from running a temp to a cold nose in
>>one day. I also gave him some "Clin drops" leftover from another cats
>>mouth abcess for a few days. His mouth sore healed. He has had 3
>>acupunture treatments and is back to his old self. He is also getting
>>some immune support herbs - one is called Wei Qi. He is 6 1/2 and has
>>fought off the virus before when he was 2. I just want to caution others
>>that these flea preps are strong and may not be good for Felv+ kitties.
>>Carolyn
>>
>>
>>On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Lee Evans wrote:
>>
>>> With FeLv+ cats or any cats for that matter, it's always good to get
>>> the vet's opinion on what shampoo to use or not. Remember that some
>>> residue of the shampoo may be absorbed through the cat's skin. If you
>>> want to know more about cat diseases (or cattle, pig, horse, rabbit or
>>> anything disases) you can go to www.merckmanuals.com and click on The
>>> Merck Veterinary Manual. They list everything there. It's really
>>> wonderful. If you want to know about a particular medication you are
>>> told to use, go to www.drugs.com and type "cat medication" in the
>>> search area. Everything is listed in alphabetical order. You will
>>> discover that Malaseb is for dogs and horses. You might want to hold
>>> off using this on a cat or kitten. Ketochlor and other shampoos that
>>> begin with Keto- should be used only under the recommendation of a
>>> veterinarian. This one forms a coating of the substance on the cat's
>>> skin and lasts long after the shampoo has been used, according to the
>>> information on drugs.com.
>>> I'm not sure that shampooing a cat is for everyone. I tried it once or
>>> twice. What I got was a mass of soap bubbles and foam with ears and
>>> eyes, racing around the house, screaching and snarling. Getting a cat
>>> to stand around for 5 to 10 minutes while the shampoo works, as
>>> advised in the information, is sooo not realistic. If you do want to
>>> shampoo, notify your next of kin first. Incidentally, it was a flea
>>> shampoo I used on an adult cat who was usually Mr. Charming but turned
>>> into a vampire the minute the water and soap hit him. This was before
>>> I found out about Capstar and Frontline Plus, many moons ago.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Catherine Chang <changic...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:48
>>>> PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ringworm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi felv friends,
>>>>
>>>> I was away from emails for several days, so I am not sure whether
>>>> bathing options has been mentioned in this thread about ringworm. If
>>>> they been mentioned, please skip this email. If not, here they are:
>>>> I know 2 shampoos can eliminate ringworm very effectively by just
>>>> bathing the cat (or just his/her infected area) twice a week.
>>>> 1. Malaseb shampoo: it contains 2% Miconazole which can treat
>>>> ringworm very effectively. It is available on Amazon. 2. Nizoral
>>>> Shampoo: it is a human dandruff shampoo made with Ketoconazole. The
>>>> 1% version can be obtained in drug stores. Although taking
>>>> Ketoconazole by mouth could make cat lethargy, such side effect is
>>>> less seen when only using it by bathing as far as I know. There is
>>>> also a pet version of 2% Ketoconazole shampoo, but you will need a
>>>> prescription to get that.
>>>> hope it helps.
>>>> catherine
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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