Hi Marsha,
I'm so sorry about everything going on with you. That "counselor" was, in my
opinion, very harsh. Who wants common sense if it doesn't make your heart
break when you lose a pet or are sad about one that is ill. He needs
compassion -- you don't need more sense.

Something that really helped me when Tigger passed away is the poem someone
posted called "Lend Me A Kitten"....... I go back and re-read it all the
time. It is so true!!

If you don't have a copy of it, let me know and I will send it to you.

Ardy


-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Marsha
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 10:57 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol

Sandy, I don't plan on seeing him again, except maybe when I am up to it, to
tell him how I felt.  I did write a review in HealthGrades on him.  The one
other person gave him 5 stars.  I keep a journal for each of my cats (I use
Microsoft OneNote), writing down cute things they did, or interactions with
other cats.  And when I am caring for a cat that is ill, the journaling is
daily...what they ate, when they ate, how they seem to be feeling, physical
activity, etc.  Noelle has her final appointment late this afternoon, near
the end of the vet's day so we can have an unhurried time, not squeezed
between. She is laying on the bed behind me right now.

I named my Noelle because I got her in December.  She was eating food at the
colony I cared for.  A little friendlier than normal feral, but I don't
think she'd ever lived indoors before, and when she was spayed, the vet
noted she had previously been pregnant. Possibly she had been a barn cat,
since I lived at the edge of town adjacent to two farms.  No one claimed
her.  She is probably related to several of my other cats, including FeLV+
Milkdud, who passed away 2 years ago around this time.  
Noelle tested negative for FeLV twice.  She was the first of the colony that
I took in. She is a calico, large patches of gray and orange tabby over
white.

Marsha

On 5/19/2016 10:03 AM, swacht wrote:
> Marsha, I'm so sorry for your loss. I really don't know if I'd 
> continue with this "counselor".  Would you be comfortable with keeping 
> a daily journal - write about your grief - write about Noelle ( I have 
> a cat named Noelle) - write about 1 thing that gives you a good feeling.
> For me, I found writing helped with my losses.  Please give it a try.
> Sandy W
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Rachel Dagner
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 7:45 AM
> To: Margo ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol
>
> Margo are you a nurse? Pets or people? I am thinking pets since you 
> said you have assisted with transfusions.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 19, 2016, at 7:16 AM, Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Marsha, I'm so sorry.
>>
>> What this "counselor" lacks is compassion. And any empathy for 
>> others. He does NOT belong in this profession. He needs to go dig 
>> ditches, somewhere far from actual humans.
>>
>> Common sense doesn't seem to have much to do with this. You are 
>> struggling with grief, anxiety and hopelessness. Basically he told 
>> you to pic yourself up, dust yourself off and start all over again.
>> I'm surprised he didn't sing it :(
>>
>> Can you switch "counselors"? What kind of qualifications does this 
>> ...man...hold?
>>
>> I have more, but want you to know that you're not alone...there any 
>> many "common sense"less people in the world, and they make it a much 
>> better place...
>>
>> Back after rounds
>>
>> Margo
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Marsha <mar...@lynxe.com>
>>> Sent: May 18, 2016 8:55 PM
>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Winstrol
>>>
>>> I went to a counselor last month to help me cope with all that is on 
>>> my plate.  During the 2nd session (1st one was the intake), he 
>>> informed me that I lacked common sense (regarding money and 
>>> animals). Then he said he loves animals too, and everybody lacks 
>>> common sense in some way - some drink too much, some eat too much, 
>>> etc.  When I told him that I wasn't looking for any more cats to take
in, he said, "Good for you!"
>>> All my brain processed was the word "good", which made his statement 
>>> come across as highly judgemental.  I was more anxious and feeling 
>>> more hopeless after I left.  Two things I was seeking help for.  I 
>>> don't need that kind of help.  I am pretty sure that lacking common 
>>> sense is not a diagnosis in any way.  And even if it was, how would 
>>> you treat it?
>>> Plus
>>> I was very depressed and crying because the last time I saw this 
>>> counselor was the day before Brock died, and I still have Noelle to 
>>> care for (sinus cancer).  I would like to tell him that HE lacked 
>>> common sense in saying such things to someone in the throes of 
>>> depression.
>>>
>>> Marsha
>>>


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