complain all you want I do even about oral meds its no fun and it means one of our baby's is sick. 2 weeks or a year its always tough.
> > From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2005/02/05 Sat PM 03:04:41 EST > To: felvtalk@vlists.net > Subject: Re: Pen-G > > Kristi, > Thanks for the tips. A whole year of antibiotic injections! I guess I > should shut up and quit complaining. My vet hadn't mentioned any of > this, but it makes sense. I've had to have antibiotic injections > myself, (for a stray cat bite!), and they're not pleasant. I'll ask the > vet about diluting it with SQ fluids. Do you think she's getting back > at me for asking so many questions? :) I'm really not looking forward > to this! > Nina > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Nina, I had to use pen-G on my rabbit- which meant SQ injections every other > >day for a year!! 2 good tricks I found 1. dilute it with SQ fluids (usually > >its best to use Nacl instead of LRS to dilute drugs)- Pen -G is REALLY thick > >and it gave him scab at the injection site. I don't if it was from him > >scratching at it because ut irritated or if the meds themselves did it, but > >when dilute it didn't happen and it stopped my needle from cloggin. 2. Once > >you pull it up don't let it sit for any length of time it completely clogs > >the needle. The bigger needle the better I say either and 18 or 20 guage is > >as small as you can go. > >Kristi > > > > > >>From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Date: 2005/02/05 Sat AM 01:44:32 EST > >>To: felvtalk@vlists.net > >>Subject: Re: signs of anemia? > >> > >>Interesting that hemobartinella responds to Tetracycline and > >>Doxycycline... Isn't Tetracycline what they use to fight ringworm? Dox > >>is the antibiotic that has helped Grace fight death on two occasions, > >>(with fever and symptoms of anemia: licking cement, lethargy). We did > >>test for 'blood parasites', which I assume would have covered > >>hemobartinella. Grace's test was negative. I find it extremely > >>irritating that no matter how qualified our vets are, we still have to > >>arm ourselves with the medical knowledge necessary to not only interpret > >>their symptoms, but to outline their treatments. I guess I'm just tired > >>right now, so forgive my rant, but it sure would be nice to find someone > >>qualified to hold my hand through this nightmare. I asked my vet about > >>using Penicillin G instead of Flagil for Gypsy, she thinks it's a great > >>idea. Now I find out it means SQ injections once a day for 14 days! I > >>think I'm going to scream. > >>Nina > >> > >>TenHouseCats wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>even in non-positive cats, anemia is something to be taken very > >>>seriously. years ago, before advantage and similar stuff, we had a > >>>REALLY bad flea year, and were having to bathe our cats weekly. no one > >>>had ever told me--nor have they since, actually--that persians are > >>>particularly susceptible to pesticides. i DID notice that jenny's gums > >>>and ears seemed unusually pale, but i had no idea what it meant. and > >>>while it concerned me when she fell hard when jumping from a > >>>relatively low perch, i had no idea that both of those things signaled > >>>anemia. she went into convulsions following the next flea bath, and > >>>was dead by the time we got her to the vet. it took me a very long > >>>time to forgive myself, because i felt i should have known... one of > >>>the other cats, a non-persian, was also close to critical from anemia, > >>>but she pulled through. > >>> > >>>so all the info on anemia and what to look for goes for ALL cats... > >>> > >>>as for FIA (feline infectious anemia), the first time i heard about it > >>>was six years ago when one of my cats was diagnosed with it. the > >>>information the vet gave me--and that was available in publications at > >>>the time--is completely different from what they are saying now. i > >>>know that where i am, mid-michigan, there has been a HUGE increase in > >>>cats showing high levels (is that the correct word?) of hemobartinella > >>>during routine blood tests. one vet mentioned that almost every cat > >>>she tests has high levels--and she uses more than one lab. i'm unclear > >>>exactly what the connection is between hemobart and fleas--i was told > >>>when shadows was diagnosed that hemobart is present in all cats that > >>>have ever had much flea experience, but that the bacteria is harmless > >>>until the cat gets older and their immune system weakens. since most > >>>of the cats i know of with hemobart do not fit either of those > >>>categories, i clearly do NOT know the mechanism. at the sanctuary, > >>>there were a lot of FeLVs who tested positive for hemobart, but in > >>>such a mutli-cat environment, it may not have had much to do with the > >>>FeLV. i guess it only responds, if at all, to tetracycline and > >>>doxycycline. end of my limited knowledge! > >>> > >>>MC > >>> > >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>*I haven't posted forever due to my own health problems. But this > >>>>struck a cord and I feel I should tell you about my past experiences > >>>>working w/ Felv+ cats.* > >>>>** > >>>>*The paleness in gums, nose etc. is a definite giveaway that the > >>>>anemia is taking it's toll. From the 100's of Felv+ cats I have > >>>>worked with I know there is NO putting off aggressive treatment.* > >>>>** > >>>>*Unfortunately, Sub-Q fluids, liver shakes rtc. won't provide a > >>>>"cure". It's just buying time..... The sad fact is many of these cats > >>>>reach the point when the disease starts taking over and anemia, often > >>>>coming on suddenly, sends up big red flags.* > >>>>** > >>>>*You need to check PCV levels. Very important. As in the case of many > >>>>of my Felv+ babies, PCV levels were checked at least 3X weekly.* > >>>>** > >>>>*And it's a shame, but sometimes you don't discover the anemia until > >>>>you notice pale gums, pale noses and even their footpads are pale. > >>>>Lethargy and lack of appetite go along w/ the disease.* > >>>>** > >>>>*In treating our Felv+ cats the first treatment was blood > >>>>transfusions. And then they were started on doses of Epoetin(sp?), > >>>>also known as Epogen. Along w/ shots of B-complex vitamins. And round > >>>>the clock monitoring in a 24 hour vet's office.* > >>>>** > >>>>*Infectious anemia and anemia are 2 diff. animals......* > >>>>** > >>>>* It is very common for Felv+ cats to develop anemia because of their > >>>>compromised immune systems. In fact, one type of anemia is related to > >>>>autoimmune disease. (Seen it TOOO many times)* > >>>>** > >>>>*I am ASTOUNDED that your vet did not do a blood test for anemia... > >>>>That is one of the first things that should have ben done, along w/ a > >>>>PCV.* > >>>>** > >>>>*I would talk to my vet and ask WHY she didn't do bloodwork for this. > >>>>I still can't believe she didn't.* > >>>>** > >>>>*With Felv+ cats developing anemia is an uphill battle. But if it IS > >>>>anemia, the clock is ticking. You say she is being rechecked in > >>>>March/April.... That's too long a wait. I would get her in right away.* > >>>>** > >>>>*You mentioned Amoxi....... Does your vet think that will "cure" > >>>>Gary? Get the fever down, maybe. But fevers are not a sign of anemia. > >>>>There's something else going on or your vet was just grasping straws.* > >>>>** > >>>>*I am sorry Jill. This is not meant to scare you, but anemia in a > >>>>Felv+ cat can be deadly and very quick. We lost almost as many > >>>>Felv cats to anemia as we did w/ lymphosarcomas. And you feel so > >>>>helpless, trying to do all you can, but watching it steadily progress.* > >>>>** > >>>>*Did you point out the "paleness" to your vet? Did you voice your > >>>>concerns about the possibility of Gary being anemic?* > >>>>*Sadly, many vets can overlook things that are staring them in the > >>>>face. Also, some are not willing to go the extra mile for a Felv+, > >>>>knowing it is a fatal disease.* > >>>>** > >>>>*Get Gary back ASAP for bloodwork. Discuss transfusions, discuss > >>>>Epogen... Gary is "YOUR" baby and you are the only one that should > >>>>decide on treatment options. But like I said before, anemia in a > >>>>Felv+ cat is dreadful, but very common.* > >>>>** > >>>>*The sooner you get a definitive diagnosis and start (aggressive) > >>>>treatments, the better for Gary. And for you........* > >>>>** > >>>>*Take it from someone who's been there too many times.* > >>>>** > >>>>*Patti* > >>>>** > >>>>** > >>>> > >>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>> > >>>>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >>>>Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> > >>>No virus found in this outgoing message. > >>>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >>>Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
