On 28.11.2007, at 19:36, Noah M. Daniels wrote:

Interestingly, the words "major problems" and "Leopard" coincide a lot
lately.

For what it's worth, I've had zero problems with the Apple-supplied
ruby, rails, etc...

Frankly, knowing that everything works well for others isn't worth much to people who _are_ having problems ;)

But it appears to be a common reaction – especially in the Apple community.

I would recommend sticking with the Apple-supplied
ruby; for once they've gotten it right, and everything seems to work
beautifully.

You must have a different understanding of 'getting it right'. Here's what I got when I entered 'ruby -v' or 'gems' into the console of a fresh 10.5 install:

-bash: ruby: command not found

After getting it to work eventually, a 'gem update --system' just wrecked the whole Ruby installation. At that point I just gave up and installed Ruby/Gems and Rails via Macports.

One thing I'd really like to know is how one is supposed to update the Ruby/Rails packages which shipped with Leopard. I had no chance to check, but are they still shipping Rails 1.1.2? I bet that Apple isn't going to update Ruby during the whole lifetime of Leopard. Anything else would be a big surprise.

So here goes my advice again: Use Macports. Do not use whatever Apple ships.

          Cheers,
          Andy

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