On Nov 29, 2007, at 7:01 AM, Andreas Korth wrote:

>
> On 28.11.2007, at 19:36, Noah M. Daniels wrote:
>
>>> Interestingly, the words "major problems" and "Leopard" coincide a  
>>> lot
>>> lately.
>
>> For what it's worth, I've had zero problems with the Apple-supplied
>> ruby, rails, etc...
>
> Frankly, knowing that everything works well for others isn't worth  
> much to people who _are_ having problems ;)
>
> But it appears to be a common reaction – especially in the Apple  
> community.

Point taken, but I was responding to the poster's statement that  
they'd avoided the apple-supplied Ruby.
>
>
> You must have a different understanding of 'getting it right'.  
> Here's what I got when I entered 'ruby -v' or 'gems' into the  
> console of a fresh 10.5 install:
>
> -bash: ruby: command not found
>

That's very strange, but just sounds like a path issue.

> After getting it to work eventually, a 'gem update --system' just  
> wrecked the whole Ruby installation. At that point I just gave up  
> and installed Ruby/Gems and Rails via Macports.
>

Yes, this one is a known issue. See these links:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1200950&tstart=0

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1202925&tstart=0


> One thing I'd really like to know is how one is supposed to update  
> the Ruby/Rails packages which shipped with Leopard. I had no chance  
> to check, but are they still shipping Rails 1.1.2? I bet that Apple  
> isn't going to update Ruby during the whole lifetime of Leopard.  
> Anything else would be a big surprise.
>

It comes with rails 1.2.3, and gem update rails updates it to 1.2.5  
(well, now 1.2.6) just fine.

> So here goes my advice again: Use Macports. Do not use whatever  
> Apple ships.

I disagree in the most friendly way possible :)
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