On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 04:00:43PM +0200, Lynne wrote:
> Apr 8, 2021, 00:24 by mich...@niedermayer.cc:
> 
> > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:32:13PM +0200, Lynne wrote:
> >
> >> Apr 3, 2021, 20:12 by mich...@niedermayer.cc:
> >>
> >> > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 03:01:16PM +0200, Lynne wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Apr 2, 2021, 23:28 by mich...@niedermayer.cc:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 11:03:16PM +0300, Jan Ekström wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > IMO some of this list is quite reasonable like a 1TB NVME, then iam 
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > sure why you need a 2nd one. That can be needed of course but its not 
> >> >> > clear
> >> >> > from just the list. But really i dont want to "critique" the list, it 
> >> >> > just
> >> >> > overall feels like there was a misunderstanding and iam happy to 
> >> >> > approve
> >> >> > a machiene in the 2-3k range or also higher if its explained why its 
> >> >> > needed
> >> >> > for FFmpeg
> >> >> >
> >> >> > and sorry for my late reply
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> By removing the screen (could borrow one for now), half the RAM, the 
> >> >> second SSD,
> >> >> and changing the motherboard, I can get this down to 4400 EUR.
> >> >> Unfortunately, the CPU and GPU constitute a large amount of the sum and 
> >> >> not
> >> >> even downgrading them to a 6800 and a 5900 helps, in fact both of those 
> >> >> are
> >> >> completely out of stock wherever I checked, since they used to be 
> >> >> cheaper.
> >> >> So now there's mostly only the higher end options left, if at all.
> >> >> I could probably change the RAM to save on an additional 100 EUR, but
> >> >> I don't see this going below 4000 EUR.
> >> >> In the past you could probably have gotten away with much less, but 
> >> >> like I said,
> >> >> there's a chip shortage going on where everything is much more expensive
> >> >> than it otherwise should have been, if it's even available in stock.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > do we have some idea about when the shortage will be resolved ? 
> >> >
> >>
> >> I expect it to end a few months after the pandemic ends.
> >> And I wish I knew when that would happen, if it will even happen at all.
> >>
> >> I searched some more and swapped for a Rocket Lake chip, which I managed
> >> to find, which also allowed me to swap the motherboard for one cheaper 
> >> still,
> >> so I managed to bring the price down to 3900EUR.
> >>
> >> The main bulk of the cost is still the GPU, which goes for nearly
> >> twice the price of its release. Sadly, coin miners are keeping demand
> >> and therefore cost up. It's been like this for many years, or so I hear.
> >>
> >> If someone from AMD is listening and wants to help out like what
> >> happened some years ago, it would be most welcome.
> >> But as far as I know, no one in the FFmpeg + VLC community has any
> >> contacts in AMD at all these days.
> >>
> >
> > If no other solution is found and noone objects, i wont object to 
> > a ~4k system. The timing is a bit unfortunate with the chip shortage
> > also please dont try to reduce it at any cost. if you can gain something
> > significant for the project by adding 100€, do it.
> >
> 
> It's been a few weeks, should I make a final list?

IMHO, yes

iam also adding stefano to the CC as there was some communication between
a few developers and SPI about this expense and iam not sure stefano is 
following
the ML

[...]

thx

> 
> 
> > Of course if someone from AMD or maybe some cryoto currency miner could
> > donate hw that would be nice.
> >
> 
> No one has reached out, unfortunately.
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