On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 03:56:40PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 04:00:43PM +0200, Lynne wrote: > > Apr 8, 2021, 00:24 by mich...@niedermayer.cc: > > > > > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:32:13PM +0200, Lynne wrote: > > > > > >> Apr 3, 2021, 20:12 by mich...@niedermayer.cc: > > >> > > >> > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 03:01:16PM +0200, Lynne wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> Apr 2, 2021, 23:28 by mich...@niedermayer.cc: > > >> >> > > >> >> > On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 11:03:16PM +0300, Jan Ekström wrote: > > >> >> > > > >> >> > IMO some of this list is quite reasonable like a 1TB NVME, then iam > > >> >> > not > > >> >> > sure why you need a 2nd one. That can be needed of course but its > > >> >> > not clear > > >> >> > from just the list. But really i dont want to "critique" the list, > > >> >> > it just > > >> >> > overall feels like there was a misunderstanding and iam happy to > > >> >> > approve > > >> >> > a machiene in the 2-3k range or also higher if its explained why > > >> >> > its needed > > >> >> > for FFmpeg > > >> >> > > > >> >> > and sorry for my late reply > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> By removing the screen (could borrow one for now), half the RAM, the > > >> >> second SSD, > > >> >> and changing the motherboard, I can get this down to 4400 EUR. > > >> >> Unfortunately, the CPU and GPU constitute a large amount of the sum > > >> >> and not > > >> >> even downgrading them to a 6800 and a 5900 helps, in fact both of > > >> >> those are > > >> >> completely out of stock wherever I checked, since they used to be > > >> >> cheaper. > > >> >> So now there's mostly only the higher end options left, if at all. > > >> >> I could probably change the RAM to save on an additional 100 EUR, but > > >> >> I don't see this going below 4000 EUR. > > >> >> In the past you could probably have gotten away with much less, but > > >> >> like I said, > > >> >> there's a chip shortage going on where everything is much more > > >> >> expensive > > >> >> than it otherwise should have been, if it's even available in stock. > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > do we have some idea about when the shortage will be resolved ? > > >> > > > >> > > >> I expect it to end a few months after the pandemic ends. > > >> And I wish I knew when that would happen, if it will even happen at all. > > >> > > >> I searched some more and swapped for a Rocket Lake chip, which I managed > > >> to find, which also allowed me to swap the motherboard for one cheaper > > >> still, > > >> so I managed to bring the price down to 3900EUR. > > >> > > >> The main bulk of the cost is still the GPU, which goes for nearly > > >> twice the price of its release. Sadly, coin miners are keeping demand > > >> and therefore cost up. It's been like this for many years, or so I hear. > > >> > > >> If someone from AMD is listening and wants to help out like what > > >> happened some years ago, it would be most welcome. > > >> But as far as I know, no one in the FFmpeg + VLC community has any > > >> contacts in AMD at all these days. > > >> > > > > > > If no other solution is found and noone objects, i wont object to > > > a ~4k system. The timing is a bit unfortunate with the chip shortage > > > also please dont try to reduce it at any cost. if you can gain something > > > significant for the project by adding 100€, do it. > > > > > > > It's been a few weeks, should I make a final list? > > IMHO, yes > > iam also adding stefano to the CC as there was some communication between > a few developers and SPI about this expense and iam not sure stefano is > following > the ML
to re-animate this thread cryptos seem down and miners seem fleeing china. Has this had any positive effect on availability/prices of hardware ? if yes, this may be a good opertunity Thanks [...] -- Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Why not whip the teacher when the pupil misbehaves? -- Diogenes of Sinope
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