Hi Lynne

On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 01:01:06PM +0900, Lynne wrote:
> 
> 
> On 23/07/2025 08:04, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > Hi Lynne
> > 
> > On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 12:53:29PM +0900, Lynne wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > +  <p>
> > > +    Bugs/issues will be accepted on <a 
> > > href="https://code.ffmpeg.org/";>code.ffmpeg.org</a>, alongside
> > > +    with <a href="https://trac.ffmpeg.org/";>trac.ffmpeg.org</a> for the 
> > > time being.
> > > +  </p>
> > 
> > People should not submit bug reports randomly to 2 trackers, thats a 
> > problem.
> > It would make searching for issues 2x as hard.
> > 
> > If we discuss and decide to change the bug tracker (which we have not 
> > discussed,
> > less decided) -> than we should import all the issues from trac into the 
> > new tracker first.
> > 
> > In fact i suggest we make the forgejo issue tracker forward people to trac 
> > currently
> 
> I disagree,

You can disagree, but you cannot "in the name of the community" suggest
things that have never been discussed by the community


> I think we need a fresh start to track bugs properly.

IMHO:

1. We need to understand the problem,
2. then think about how to solve it (and choose a solution)
3. then implement the solution
4. then evaluate the implementation/solution

About 1. (IMHO)
* The problem is that carl has become inactive and stoped doing user
  support and maintain the 10000+ bugs on the tracker.

About 2. (IMHO)
* The solution is to hire carl or someone else (or find a volunteer)
  to do this work. Changing the tracker will not fix this.

  FFlabs should have  enough captial to hire carl for this. People should ask
  FFlabs to hire him and carl to accept to be hired for this work.
  Or a "bugs maintaince and user support" should be on the STF 2025 page
  with conditions that someone agrees to, to do that work.

thx

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