On Thu, Mar 21, 2019, 02:35 Ali KIZIL <aliki...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dennis Mungai <dmng...@gmail.com>, 20 Mar 2019 Çar, 23:20 tarihinde şunu > yazdı: > > > On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 at 23:02, Marton Balint <c...@passwd.hu> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, at 20:52, Marton Balint wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, at 19:34, Marton Balint wrote: > > > >> >> As I described in similar threads before, whether or not the > > project > > > want > > > >> >> closed source support for NDI is a subjective issue, please > start a > > > vote > > > >> >> about the removal of libndi if you want to seek this through. > > > >> > > > > >> > The removal of libndi is actually done and committed. > > > >> > > > >> That is just sad an unfair. > > > > > > > > Sad, maybe. > > > > Unfair, I disagree. If NDI wants to be in, they know what to do. > > > > > > It is unfair towards the people who expressied disapproval, yet this > > > change was committed without neither vote nor consensus. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Marton > > > > > > > > > > > At the very best, the lack of consensus on this implies vindictive > intent. > > Is there something that the FFmpeg developers (see below) have against > > Newtek, as a company? > > Clearly, they took down the offending FFmpeg build: > > https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/7589?cversion=0&cnum_hist=10 > > > > We've seen other violations, such as this one by Amazon: > > https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/7214 that were handled in a much more > > graceful manner. > > > > The primary agitator here seems to be kierank: > > https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/7589?cversion=0&cnum_hist=10#comment:5 > > > > What undisclosed history do you have with Newtek (see the reference to > > "Andrew") above that isn't disclosed above? > > Secondly, you're quite influential in the broadcast industry: > > https://www.obe.tv/author/obe/ > > > > There's an aura of hostility around this commit, and whatever that is > seems > > to have spilled over into this. > > _______________________________________________ > > ffmpeg-devel mailing list > > ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org > > https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel > > > The way of removal is not nice. There were an expectation to have a voting > for removal at the previous ML chain. > It feels the feeling of the patch is committed without any notice. > Sad, for the users who follow git-master and get notice for removal after > the commit. >
And apparently calling out specific parties involved in this was translated as an ad hominem attack. Citing Newtek NDI as a "common" violator of the GPL *without* offering any evidence (a history of repeated prior behavior) is simply vindictive. What's the point of a consensus when it's assumed "the majority" agreed *without* an ML vote on the same? At this point, Kizil: Let sleeping dogs lie. This removal is purely political. > _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel