Hi, On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 11:03 AM Thilo Borgmann <thilo.borgm...@mail.de> wrote:
> Am 21.03.19 um 11:55 schrieb Michael Niedermayer: > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 05:41:31PM -0400, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 4:15 PM Gyan <ffm...@gyani.pro> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 21-03-2019 01:32 AM, Marton Balint wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, at 20:52, Marton Balint wrote: > >>>>>> On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, at 19:34, Marton Balint wrote: > >>>>>>>> As I described in similar threads before, whether or not the > >>>>>> project want >> closed source support for NDI is a subjective issue, > >>>>>> please start a vote >> about the removal of libndi if you want to > >>>>>> seek this through. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The removal of libndi is actually done and committed. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> That is just sad an unfair. > >>>>> > >>>>> Sad, maybe. > >>>>> Unfair, I disagree. If NDI wants to be in, they know what to do. > >>>> > >>>> It is unfair towards the people who expressied disapproval, yet this > >>>> change was committed without neither vote nor consensus. > >>> > >>> +1. This was a political decision, not a technical one. A formal(-ish) > >>> survey should have happened on the ML. > >>> > >> > >> I agree we need a formal vote on this. I would like to set a wider > project > >> policy w.r.t. closed-source software integration, this is just one > instance > >> of a more general issue. > > > I think there should have been a vote before pushing a commit as there > where > > FFmpeg developers objecting to it. > > Ignoring people causes nothing good. Had there been a vote people would > be > > alot less upset about it as everyones oppinion would be counted equally > > > > It makes me unhappy that one FFmpeg developer apparently decided to leave > > the project already because of this. > > I think we should fix this, make a proper policy, with a proper vote > > and then hopefully noone feels the need to leave. > > +1 > > >> > >> Who wants to organize it? > > > > Thilo organized the last vote, maybe he wants to do it ? > > but if noone else wants to do it i can do one too if people want and > > there is consensus who can vote > > If i search for "open source vote free" on google it points to > > vote.heliosvoting.org as first hit > > this seems rather basic but for simple yes/no questions it could work > > maybe someone has a better suggestion we could use for more complex > future > > cases that is multiple choice votes in teh future (schulze STV / CPO-STV > > for multiwinner or ScottishSTV (used by SPI), schulze method (used by > debian) > > for one winner of N choices would be nice to have) > > Including for simple yes/no votes we can use the same LimeSurvey host we > got provided from KDE for the survey. Also for anonymous votes. I think what we have to figure out is whether we want to ask: - do we want to keep (or remove) NDI? or - do we want to keep any components requiring linking with non-system, closed-source software? (this might or might not include blackmagic) or some other variant that also includes system software like nvidia stuff? Or ask a simple yes/no for each component separately? (Although that wouldn't set a more general policy.) Ronald _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-requ...@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".