On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 03:08:59PM -0400, Alex Converse wrote: > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Diego Biurrun<[email protected]> wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 03:02:43PM -0400, Alex Converse wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Diego Biurrun<[email protected]> wrote: > >> > On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 01:49:59PM -0400, Alex Converse wrote: > >> >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Kostya<[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 12:25:09PM +0200, Diego Biurrun wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 10:38:55PM -0400, Alex Converse wrote: > >> >> >> > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Diego Biurrun<[email protected]> > >> >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> > > On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 09:14:00PM -0400, Alex Converse wrote: > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> To be frank, at this point it seems like it might be prudent > >> >> >> > >> for me to > >> >> >> > >> stop working on this > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > Uh, why? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Getting faac free (by dropping long forgotten profiles and > >> >> >> > reimplementing things from spec), seem like less effort than > >> >> >> > getting > >> >> >> > FFmpeg to faac quality (running around trying to fix bugs in > >> >> >> > someone > >> >> >> > else's codebase). Building on 26.410 v8.0.0 is attractive because > >> >> >> > it > >> >> >> > is already better quality than ffmpeg and faac and includes a > >> >> >> > working > >> >> >> > SBR implementation which would require tons of work to add to > >> >> >> > ffmpeg > >> >> >> > or faac. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> What is "26.410 v8.0.0", where can I find it and how is it licensed? > >> >> > > >> >> > 3GPP TS 26.410 aka AAC encoder floating point code. Guess license by > >> >> > yourself ;) > >> >> > >> >> All of the encoder source lacks copyright notices/licensing terms > >> >> > >> >> >From the Documentation: > >> >> > >> >> No part may be reproduced except as authorized by written permission. > >> >> The copyright and the foregoing restriction extend to reproduction in > >> >> all media. > >> >> > >> >> © 2008, 3GPP Organizational Partners (ARIB, ATIS, CCSA, ETSI, TTA, TTC). > >> >> All rights reserved. > >> >> > >> >> >From the build system: > >> >> > >> >> # Copyright (c) Coding Technologies 2003 > >> >> # All Rights Reserved > >> > > >> > So this is completely nonfree, you may neither modify nor distribute it. > >> > This is not something you can use as a base for your work unless you > >> > wish to throw your time away... > >> > >> Let's not forget that lame started out as a dist10 patchset. > > > > That was before my time, what is dist10?
So what is dist10? Somebody please enlighten me... > >> Libfaac has two incompatible licenses. > > > > Yes, that's why it is crap and needs to be replaced. The 3GPP AAC > > encoder has just one license: prohibitively nonfree. There is really > > nothing more to say about it... > > > > What is your point exactly? > > It's the best AAC encoder with source available. It may have source available, but the source is under as nonfree a license as possible. That's not helpful, on the contrary... > I don't see a path to > merging our AAC encoder anytime in the near future. What exactly is missing? > I also think we are getting to the point where an encoder without SBR > is a bit of a joke. As I said, let's take things step by step... Diego _______________________________________________ FFmpeg-soc mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-soc
