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I am not going to argue with my comrade from Australia. How could I? Good to see you post Chris. It has been a long time. Hope you are well - and getting along as well as old guys like us can get along. I miss the old days Chris. And of course I agree with you. Hank On Thu, 9 Feb 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Subject: Israel is obviously an illegal Occupier; but so what? > > > As it is unlikely that Palestinians will receive national justice based > on any "legal" argument, I am not sure what point there is in claiming > Israel legally (or illegally) occupies anything. Israel's only claim is > based on war, and on recognition by a significant number of world > powers. Once this recognition by other World powers dissipates - the > recognition of Israel also dissipates - and so does any legal basis. > > We have to recognise that many nations have been established by > "illegal" occupation. Australia was illegally settled by the British, > areas of United States were taken illegally. Possibly too, the British > occupation of Palestine was "illegal". > > Hank also claims a philosophical right for Israel. This suggests to me > that he has some doubts about the finality or completeness of any legal > claim. Legal claims never solve anything - they just represent the > present balance of forces. The victors write the laws. For capitalism, > war makes law. For socialists peace makes justice. > > Unfortunately, several "peoples" can claim equal philosophical rights to > bits and pieces of the Middle East. > > Anyway I am no expert or activist in Middle Eastern specifics, I only > want to make it clear, that given the way the world has developed, very > few Western powers have a legal right to their "blood-soaked" territory. > > > > > Chris Warren > CANBERRA > > ----- / o o \ ====OO=====OO========================= Hank Roth's Place - http://pnews.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (on the InterNUT since 1982) ============================================ Fightback - notification news and views list Subscribe/Unsub at: http://pnews.org/dada/ ================================================ Fightback - (pnews "progressive news and views") OPEN discussion - subscribe or unsubscribe in subject line: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ================================================