[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I'm from the old black and white school of hard knocks. If I wanted fine
> grain I shot a slow film, asa 50 or slower. For a higher speed and still fine
> grain Tri-X.

With "fast" Provia 100F there isn't much grain to look at. :-)

> 
> If I wanted a tighter grain in Provia why wouldn't I shoot 400 instread of
> pushing 100 to 400?

Rumour has it that one gets less grain with 100F pushed than using 400F.

100F is a really nice film.  Caused me to stop using Kodachrome 64.

Mike K.

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