the site is http://www.dl-c.com/Velvia%20vs%20Provia%20100F/Velvia%20vs%20Provia%20100F .html
On 1/6/02 2:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernie Ess) >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Hi Ken, >this wonYent help you here, but in general if you shot slide to scan it then, >you might try out Provia in the future, while being at least as fine grained >as Velvia, it is less hard in its contrast and thus keeps more shadow >detail. >I have seen a Web site (dont have the URL right now, but it should be >findable via Google.com search) which does exactly a comparision of an >identical shot - on emade with Velvia, one with Provia. It was evident that >at first sight the Velvia had more intense colors (looking more interesting) >than the provia which seemed more tamed and less contrasty. But the authoir >showd very well that in the dark shadows the Velvia just lost where the >Provia still showed detail. >The conclusion therer was that if you shoot for further digital editing, the >Provia is clearly the winner. > >For your current shot, if its really important, try to find someone with a >Imacon or a drum scanner and get it scanned by him. > >Greetings Bernhard > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ken Durling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 6:44 AM >Subject: [filmscanners] Tips needed on difficult scan > > >HI folks - > >I'm still working away here, improving my understanding and >techniques. Since the addition of histograms to Vuescan, I've been >trying to utilize them some, but remain somewhat confused, as I'm just >starting to get a grasp of the ones in PS Elements, which have 3 >sldiers, and input and output controls. > >I have a slide that I've been spending hours trying to yield what I >can see through the loupe on the light table, but it's evading me. >It's a very high contrast sunset shot taken on Velvia, with one side >very dark under dense clouds, and the opposite side has brilliant - >one might say "blown out" - area of sunlight. Along the bottom of the >photo is a lot of city detail, seen from above - I was shooting from >up in the hills overlooking SF Bay. It was taken with a sharp lens, >so the detail is there, and I'd like to retrieve it. > >My main problem has been trying to bring out all the detail in the >city - which is in the relatively dark area of the photo. >Secondarily, the finding a contrast range that doesn't blow out the >sunlit areas too severely, while not darkeneing the shadows too much. > >But what I'd like help with is how to utilize the Vuescan histograms >to achieve this. Needless to say, upon initial scan at the default >white and black points of 1, the histograms go off the scale at either >end. What general guidelines should I use for trying setting that >will bring the contrast range within the scale? And what effect do >the color balance settings have on the effectiveness of the black and >white point settings? > >Thanks for any lights, and if seeing an example of this particular >scan would be helpful, I can supply. > > >Ken Durling > > > >Photo.net portfolio: > >http://www.photo.net/shared/community-member?user_id=402251 > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >------------ >Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe >filmscanners' >or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title >or body > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-------------- >Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe >filmscanners' >or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title >or body > > >----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- >Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Received: from rly-xb04.mx.aol.com (rly-xb04.mail.aol.com >[172.20.105.105]) by air-xb01.mail.aol.com (v82.22) with ESMTP id >MAILINXB13-0106051155; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 05:11:55 -0500 >Received: from tsphoto (wan-a-97.adsl.alcom.co.uk [212.47.80.97]) by >rly-xb04.mx.aol.com (v83.18) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB41-0106051108; >Sun, 06 Jan 2002 05:11:08 -0500 >X-Envelope-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Message-ID: <003701c19699$64e24e40$622000d9@albischwalbi> >References: ><000501c15887$affeb8a0$9865fea9@lloyd1><008d01c1588d$30199320$621187d9@ste >ve> <p05010407b7f64e387426@[192.168.100.101]> ><01aa01c15a1b$1596b660$cb38a03d@shen> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:03:30 +0100 >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 >X-Envelope-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-UIDL: _-IH.JECO8.sulphur >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: "Bernie Ess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [filmscanners] Re: Tips needed on difficult scan > Bob Goldstein 408/253-4489 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
