I must disagree with the previous explanations of how the Elapsed Time
function works (or doesn't work).  It does indeed take Tempo Tool
modifications into account when calculating the duration of a passage, at
least on Fin2k4a.  I believe Fin2k2 did ignore Tempo Tool data, and I don't
recall whether or not this was fixed in Fin2k3.  What I can say with
certainty is that in Fin2k4a the results I get from Mass Edit->Check Elapsed
Time, TGTools Calculate Duration, and a stopwatch all agree.

-Lee

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
> Of David H. Bailey
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 12:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Elapsed time
>
>
> Now for the bug part of the situation -- why if Finale-the-program knows
> about the tempo tool settings so it can play your finale file correctly,
> doesn't Finale-the-program know that those tempo tool settings exist
> when calculating elapsed time or when saving as a midi file?
>
> While Brad is absolutely correct in saying that the proper way to affect
> both midi-file-creation and elapsed-time calculation is to use
> expressions defined for playback, it certainly seems like a bug to me
> that the program doesn't know what the program knows.
>
> And Finale will say it's not a bug.  But it really is a bug if a program
> can do something and even has a special tool to do it with and yet that
> program can't search its own data file for the data from that specially
> designed tool.
>
> Maybe not a bug, but certainly lazy programming which has never bothered
> to fix the situation.
>
> So in effect, Finale (and MakeMusic) is saying to us: We designed this
> special tool, gave it its own icon, spent your development dollars on
> it, let you use it if you are foolish enough to want to, haven't removed
> it, but it's totally useless within the overall scope of all the
> functions the program offers.  So don't use it.
>
> You know, I don't think even Microsoft does that, for all it's other
> stupid actions!
>
>
>
> Brad Beyenhof wrote:
> > on 11/21/03 10:33 AM, Ole Buck wrote:
> >
> >
> >>From: "Mr. Liudas Motekaitis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>>In Mass Edit select the region you want to measure and hit 5.
> >>
> >>Finales Elapsed Time gives you for some unknown reasons only the time at
> >>MM=120.
> >>I guess it's a bug.
> >
> >
> > Actually, it's not a bug.  The Tempo Tool is not what you use
> to affect the
> > Elapsed Time dialog.  This dialog calculates elapsed time based
> on the tempo
> > changes inserted as Playback Options elements of Text Expressions.
> >
> > Also, these are the tempos used when exporting as a MIDI file.
> If you've
> > ever wondered why the MIDI file is a different tempo than the
> Finale file,
> > this is your problem.  Just insert the tempos as Expressions
> and it'll do
> > what you expect.
> >
> > -------------
> > Brad Beyenhof
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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