Very interesting argument but I was always under the impression that fp, sf and sfz were *accents* not dynamics. Basically, you punch it and get off of the punch as quickly as you can. That they look like dynamics and use the same characters make them confusing.

Sfp and sfzp would not make any sense to me as a performer. What's the word to describe these markings? What's the action intended? Wouldn't fp suffice? Would they change the level in the dynamic realm or not? Can you have an sfp at the mf level or does it change the level from mf to p?

In other words you're moving along in the score and the overall dynamic level is at the p level, and you come to an sf. It would not pack the same punch as an sf at the p level as it would at a higher level. I always thought that these markings were intended to describe the distance in dynamic level from the dynamic realm .... so an sf at the p level might be somewhere near the mf or mp level, but an sf at the mf level would be at the f or ff level, and to figure out how far to jump depends on the dynamics across the entire piece in all the parts and how the instruments are balanced. This makes those markings highly ambiguous and dare I say somewhat decorative.

If it's a question of dynamic rhythm I would be hard pressed not to find some other way of describing what I wanted, perhaps a diagram of the dynamics placed near the note intended. But I think if you get this far into it you might be stretching how subtle a player can be dynamically, unless you were composing for tape or computer. In my computer compositions that get this subtle, I use a two or three line staff and draw the dynamics as a rhythm, so that I can literally see the curve I wish to program later (along with other notations such as velocity numbers, volume level, etc.). It makes programming much easier and much simpler, not to mention applying variation techniques within the dynamic realm.

Keef.

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