Ken Moore wrote:

Eric Dannewitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 > Fuck you on the Stockholm syndrome. I think you seriously need to
 > change careers if you don't think doubling has something to do with
 > Transpose

Shan't then. It took me a long time to find octave doubling, and I agree with David, it's not intuitive. Dennis B-K's suggestion makes a lot of sense to me. It's what Finale would have been like if it had been designed by musicians rather than by programmers.


I believe it was designed by musicians. The problem is that not all musicians think of things the same way.

My wife is a violinist, I'm a trumpet player and conductor. Totally regardless of our musical backgrounds or interests, merely as individuals, we seem to have opposite ways of arriving at the same point, simply because of the way our brains work. So that often when I explain something to her, including musical things, she just won't get it and will give me her understanding, which I won't understand. Then she plays what she's trying to explain or shows me what she's trying to explain and it's exactly what I had in mind.

The situation with the doubling-at-the-octave-on-the-same-staff issue seems to me to be more one of these sorts of situations than a musical issue.

I would immediately consider it transposition, as would others, while it is equally evident that many others wouldn't consider it an aspect of transposition at all.

Both ways of looking at it are correct, but to claim that the people who designed the feature into Finale aren't musicians because they didn't place it where some people think it should go is totally unfair. Just as it is unfair to brand people who don't think like we do about musical things to be "non-musicians."

No computer program will ever place items in menus or in discoverable locations where every end-user will find them. That's a fact of computer life, until we get to neural-net computers (I don't even know if that's the right term, but it sounds good) with which we interact vocally and simply say double these selected notes up an octave (or whatever) and we don't have any menus to interact with at all.

But just because someone thinks about things differently doesn't give anybody a right to demean them or their intentions.

And I really think that if the index were much more comprehensive, including many more potential ways of getting at the same point, that would go a long way to obviating the fact that no computer program will ever place all its menu items or features in places that make sense to everybody.

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David H. Bailey
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